Mr Billy Lovelady

[Jerry Freeman]

What we fail to see [unless I missed it somewhere] is an actual photograph of the landing taken on any sunny 12:30 on any given Nov 22 or thereabouts from that same camera location where-ever that is.
If I could ever find Robt Groden again...I'll ask him about it.

[Alan Ford]

Thanks, Alan.

I believe that Lovelady is standing directly in front of Prayerman with his right foot on the right hand side of the green line as we look at it. This would mean the shadow would be on half of his body.

So Mr Lovelady is standing directly behind Mr Carl Jones in this frame?



Seriously?

[Alan Ford]

What we fail to see [unless I missed it somewhere] is an actual photograph of the landing taken on any sunny 12:30 on any given Nov 22 or thereabouts from that same camera location where-ever that is.
If I could ever find Robt Groden again...I'll ask him about it.

So you're not querying the meticulous sun angle calculations of Mr Stancak or Mr Hackerott and have no counter-analysis of your own to offer. Yet you don't wish to see the obvious implications of the sun's angle for your reality-denying belief that what is causing the darkness down Mr Lovelady's right side is shadow from the west pillar.

Got it! 

[Ray Mitcham]

What we fail to see [unless I missed it somewhere] is an actual photograph of the landing taken on any sunny 12:30 on any given Nov 22 or thereabouts from that same camera location where-ever that is.
If I could ever find Robt Groden again...I'll ask him about it.

That would be handy, Jerry, but in the mean time, maybe physics can help.

The TSBD is situated at an approximate angle of 13˚West of North.
The sun's azimuth  at 12.30 p.m on 11.22.63 was 185.32˚ (i.e.5.32˚ West of South) which gives us the sun shadow in the Entrance of 18˚ West of North,(13+5.32) or as we look at Andrej's plan view of the entrance at 18˚approx in relation to North. Which seems to agree with Andrej's model.

[Ray Mitcham]

So you're not querying the meticulous sun angle calculations of Mr Stancak or Mr Hackerott and have no counter-analysis of your own to offer. Yet you don't wish to see the obvious implications of the sun's angle for your reality-denying belief that what is causing the darkness down Mr Lovelady's right side is shadow from the west pillar.

Got it! 

No. I am not querying either of those two, but I am suggesting that Lovelady is further to the west of the steps than you believe.

As for reality denying belief, I don't have one, but I can understand what happens in photographs.

As you don't think the black is the shadow, what do you think caused it, Fakery?

[Ray Mitcham]

So Mr Lovelady is standing directly behind Mr Carl Jones in this frame?

yes but slightly to his left.

Seriously?

You seriously don't think it is the shadow of the left pillar? Sheesh.

[Alan Ford]

No. I am not querying either of those two, but I am suggesting that Lovelady is further to the west of the steps than you believe.

As for reality denying belief, I don't have one, but I can understand what happens in photographs.

As you don't think the black is the shadow, what do you think caused it, Fakery?

The post you are replying to here was my response to Mr Freeman, not to you!

You are engaging seriously in the issue, he is not. 

[Ray Mitcham]

The post you are replying to here was my response to Mr Freeman, not to you!

You are engaging seriously in the issue, he is not. 

Apologies, Alan.