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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Howard Brennan showed DPD which window the shots had come from
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2019, 05:57:17 PM »

In JAQer/CTer wonderland, it couldashouldawoulda been a curtain-rod 'something narrow' sticking out that window. Or maybe a yardstick.
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Re: Howard Brennan showed DPD which window the shots had come from
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Re: Howard Brennan showed DPD which window the shots had come from
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2019, 06:08:22 PM »
In JAQer/CTer wonderland, it couldashouldawoulda been a curtain-rod 'something narrow' sticking out that window. Or maybe a yardstick.

In ODIA wonderland, "if I want to believe there was a rifle, then there was a rifle".

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Re: Howard Brennan showed DPD which window the shots had come from
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2019, 06:46:36 PM »
We don't know what Brennan may or may not have said "within a few minutes".

Jackson said "I saw the rifle, or what looked like a rifle approximately half of weapon, I guess I saw".  Couch said "And seeing about a foot of a rifle being - the barrel brought into the window. I saw no one in the window - just a quick 1-second glance at the barrel", and that was after Jackson said "there's the rifle", so it's not like it was an independent identification of an actual rifle.  Also keep in mind that these are recollections over 4 months later after the narrative was firmly planted in the American psyche.

Conclusion:  they caught a brief glimpse of something narrow sticking out of a window after hearing shots and assumed it was a rifle.  Just like Marina saw part of something in a rolled and tied blanket and assumed it was a rifle.  Ruth Paine tells us what Marina said to her before she mistranslated it to the police.

Mrs. PAINE - And she indicated to me that she had peered into this roll and saw a portion of what she took to be a gun she knew her husband to have, a rifle. And I then translated this to the officers that she knew that her husband had a gun that he had stored in here.

It was probably the rifle.. but by all means, feel free to suggest what else the 'something narrow' could have been.
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Re: Howard Brennan showed DPD which window the shots had come from
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2019, 07:08:45 PM »
In ODIA wonderland, "if I want to believe there was a rifle, then there was a rifle".

In JAQer/CTer wonderland, 'if I want to believe there was no rifle, then there was no rifle'

BTW, I'm not ODIA
I'm OPDIA

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Re: Howard Brennan showed DPD which window the shots had come from
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2019, 07:36:42 PM »
It was probably the rifle.. but by all means, feel free to suggest what else the 'something narrow' could have been.

Shifting the burden of proof again?  Why was it "probably" a rifle (much less THE rifle)?

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Re: Howard Brennan showed DPD which window the shots had come from
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2019, 07:38:18 PM »
In JAQer/CTer wonderland, 'if I want to believe there was no rifle, then there was no rifle'

Belief has nothing to do with it.  What can be proven with evidence, rather than an arbitrary and capricious declaration of probability?

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Re: Howard Brennan showed DPD which window the shots had come from
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2019, 07:48:22 PM »
Shifting the burden of proof again?  Why was it "probably" a rifle (much less THE rifle)?

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A rifle was seen in that window
Or did Euins/Brennan imagine it




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Re: Howard Brennan showed DPD which window the shots had come from
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2019, 07:51:45 PM »
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A rifle was seen in that window
Or did Euins/Brennan imagine it

Euins is the one who called it "pipe thing".  Brennan claimed to see all kinds of details.


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Re: Howard Brennan showed DPD which window the shots had come from
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2019, 07:53:17 PM »
By the way, describe the people looking out the 7th floor window.  Yes, there are people looking out the 7th floor window.

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Re: Howard Brennan showed DPD which window the shots had come from
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2019, 08:07:51 PM »
Belief has nothing to do with it.  What can be proven with evidence, rather than an arbitrary and capricious declaration of probability?

If it shoots like a rifle it must be a rifle

Brennan said the gunman, after the final shot, stepped away from the window with the rifle
Jackson et al looked up too late to as much as what Brennan saw

BFD to JAQers/CTers huh..
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