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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Poll...Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« on: March 16, 2019, 10:28:57 PM »
An open poll [no time limit set] Add comments if you will please. Must vote to see results. I personally have there been many times.
 

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Re: Poll...Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2019, 10:38:47 PM »
6 or 7 times.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Poll...Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2019, 01:11:21 AM »
An open poll [no time limit set] Add comments if you will please. Must vote to see results. I personally have there been many times.
Three times...  And I find it disgusting.   A pseudo shrine in a city whose elected officials hated John Kennedy, and whose police department did nothing to bring the murderers to justice.  I'm particularly revolted by the  Sixth Floor museum ..... A place were drones file by video exhibits and nod their heads knowingly  while absorbing the propaganda that's being presented. 
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Offline Louis Earl

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Re: Poll...Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2019, 07:03:23 PM »
I?ve visited countless times in the last 55 years.   The area is well maintained and but for its history it is a peaceful spot.  During the summer it can get rowdy with people on vacation and people selling their books and tours but its public property and there isn?t much the City can do to shoo them away.  I?ve been to the Museum maybe 5 times.   I think it is subdued and respectfully done.  It does not purport to offer all theories of the case.  The only thing on display which I think is tacky is Oswald?s wedding ring. Under glass and a spotlight you would think it was a valuable jewel; it?s not.

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Re: Poll...Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2019, 11:11:17 AM »
I visited once. Just long enough to see the museum. I would like to return and spend enough time to roam around the area and contemplate what I have learned over the years. When we arrived, I felt like I knew the area already because I have seen so many photos and videos.
I recently started using a virtual reality head mounted display for flight simulation. And it occurred to me that if we had access to an accurate 3-D model of Dealey Plaza, we could ?visit? in the virtual world quite often. I know that there is at least one model that has been made. But the creator was unwilling to share it freely. Has this changed since I have been mostly away from this place for a while?

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Re: Poll...Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2019, 03:07:29 PM »
I visited once. Just long enough to see the museum. I would like to return and spend enough time to roam around the area and contemplate what I have learned over the years. When we arrived, I felt like I knew the area already because I have seen so many photos and videos.
I recently started using a virtual reality head mounted display for flight simulation. And it occurred to me that if we had access to an accurate 3-D model of Dealey Plaza, we could ?visit? in the virtual world quite often. I know that there is at least one model that has been made. But the creator was unwilling to share it freely. Has this changed since I have been mostly away from this place for a while?

Wouldn't it be great to see a virtual reality reverse video of the view from the position of JFK's head at the time his head ruptured  back to the intersection of Houston & Elm?    While focusing the camera on the SE sixth floor window, the entire time....  I'm 100% certain that we would see nothing but Live Oak tree foliage at the time the shots were fired.

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Re: Poll...Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2019, 05:27:21 PM »
Wouldn't it be great to see a virtual reality reverse video of the view from the position of JFK's head at the time his head ruptured  back to the intersection of Houston & Elm?    While focusing the camera on the SE sixth floor window, the entire time....  I'm 100% certain that we would see nothing but Live Oak tree foliage at the time the shots were fired.

Take a look at the re-enactment videos. One of them does include a view of the window from the limousine.

But, yes a computer generated virtual reality setup would allow for many interesting viewpoints.

I am 100% certain that even if it was done with the most accurate methods possible and showed that you are wrong, you would not listen to reason. You already have your mind made up.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Poll...Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2019, 08:42:21 PM »
Take a look at the re-enactment videos. One of them does include a view of the window from the limousine.

But, yes a computer generated virtual reality setup would allow for many interesting viewpoints.

I am 100% certain that even if it was done with the most accurate methods possible and showed that you are wrong, you would not listen to reason. You already have your mind made up.

I'll admit that it would take a lot more than what we've we've been fed so far, to begin to sate my appetite for the truth.....  But that doesn't mean that I can't be shown FACTUAL evidence that could change my mind.   

I would like to see a view from JFK's head to the window starting at the eruption of his head and back to the intersection.....  I'd be willing to gamble a bit that the view would shown nothing but Live oak foliage....

In fact I'd pledge a donation to the person who could create a virtual reality view like the one I've described.....
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Offline Joe Mannix

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Re: Poll...Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2019, 10:13:22 PM »
Three for me. Throat shot came from Black Dog Man or Badge Man. Fatal shot from where the overpass meets the picket fence. My humble opinion.

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Re: Poll...Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2019, 06:01:05 AM »
Yeah I was there once with my family, but it was so humid, we had to depart earlier than I wanted to accommodate my mother. I got a chance to interview Groden briefly who was there hawking his merch. I have mixed feelings about him due to the reports of several researchers. But he was largely responsible for the first public showing of the Zapruder film, which was a seminal event in assassination research. I find the museum to be much more offensive and it feels like a Fox News presentation to me.

What about general impressions? One of the least likely locations for an assassin in all of Dealey Plaza, is the patsy's window. If your goal is to get framed, this would be a pretty good site to select. On the other hand, I stood behind the fence and it was an ideal shot. There was plenty of cover, shade, and a parking lot full of cars to cover the assassin's escape. There's also a strong vibration of evil in this location for the sensitive heart. I had the overwhelming feeling that Oswald was framed and felt great frustration for him. I've been sporadically obsessed with this case from the outset (I was only six in 1963) and even in junior high school read everything I could get my hands on. Over the years I've read much of the material discovered by the many private researchers dedicated to finding the truth of that horrible day. It's clear to me there were at least three shooters with multiple support goons to clean up after all hell broke loose. LBJ was the prime cause and was being prosecuted for two of the scandals plaguing him at the time. Johnson's behavior around and just after the assassination prove a criminal cover-up for starters and there's a fair amount of evidence to suggest his involvement in the planning of the Texas trip. Never forget that the French and Russian intelligence services, Jackie and Bobby Kennedy and many others believed Johnson was the mastermind, but here in this country, it's seen as outrageous to hold such views...

 

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