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Online Walt Cakebread

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"A Communist, Lee Harvey Oswald, Killed the President"
« on: March 02, 2019, 01:57:45 PM »
Question...Who was the first person to issue that proclamation?

Answer....An FBI Agent named James Hosty.

At about 2:50 PM on 11/22/63 FBI agent James W. Hosty informed a DPD Detective named Jack Revill, that  Lee Harvey Oswald a Communist had murdered President Kennedy.

In the past few days the scribbled notes of the interrogators of Lee Oswald have been posted in this forum.  The contents of the notes has been hotly debated, but one vital point has been generally ignored ...That is; The time of the commencement of the interrogation. The time is recorded right there on the notes...3:15 pm.

It was subsequent to the commencement of the interrogation that the interrogators learned the suspect's name was Lee Oswald .....And yet FBI agent James Hosty had informed Jack Revill that a communist named Lee Oswald, had murdered the President twenty-five minutes prior to the commencement of the interrogation.

I would like to point out that in the only other encounter with the police Lee Oswald had demanded that an FBI agent be present before he would answer any questions...

Perhaps a few students will recall that when Lee Oswald was arrested for being involved in a shouting match with a Cuban refugee in New Orleans, which resulted in a charge of  disturbing the peace, he demanded that an FBI agent come to the New Orleans jail.

Question:.....  Did Lee Oswald identify himself and demand that an FBI agent be present at Dallas Police headquarters??

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Re: "A Communist, Lee Harvey Oswald, Killed the President"
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2019, 03:30:14 PM »
Question...Who was the first person to issue that proclamation?

Answer....An FBI Agent named James Hosty.

At about 2:50 PM on 11/22/63 FBI agent James W. Hosty informed a DPD Detective named Jack Revill, that  Lee Harvey Oswald a Communist had murdered President Kennedy.

In the past few days the scribbled notes of the interrogators of Lee Oswald have been posted in this forum.  The contents of the notes has been hotly debated, but one vital point has been generally ignored ...That is; The time of the commencement of the interrogation. The time is recorded right there on the notes...3:15 pm.

It was subsequent to the commencement of the interrogation that the interrogators learned the suspect's name was Lee Oswald .....And yet FBI agent James Hosty had informed Jack Revill that a communist named Lee Oswald, had murdered the President twenty-five minutes prior to the commencement of the interrogation.

I would like to point out that in the only other encounter with the police Lee Oswald had demanded that an FBI agent be present before he would answer any questions...

Perhaps a few students will recall that when Lee Oswald was arrested for being involved in a shouting match with a Cuban refugee in New Orleans, which resulted in a charge of  disturbing the peace, he demanded that an FBI agent come to the New Orleans jail.

Question:.....  Did Lee Oswald identify himself and demand that an FBI agent be present at Dallas Police headquarters??

Same false premise.  "Shortly after 2 o'clock, we received information that this man had been captured and taken to the Dallas Police Department. One of our agents called from the Dallas Police Department and identified this man as Lee Harvey Oswald. I immediately recognized the name."

Hosty was the FBI agent in charge of Oswald's file.  He knew his background including his pro-commie views.  Oswald had multiple IDs in his own name when he is arrested at about 1:50pm.  His name was passed on to the FBI and Hosty around 2pm.  So what could be so mysterious about Hosty knowing that LHO was a Communist at 3:15pm?  Bizarre.

 
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2019, 06:08:10 PM »
Same false premise.  "Shortly after 2 o'clock, we received information that this man had been captured and taken to the Dallas Police Department. One of our agents called from the Dallas Police Department and identified this man as Lee Harvey Oswald. I immediately recognized the name."

Hosty was the FBI agent in charge of Oswald's file.  He knew his background including his pro-commie views.  Oswald had multiple IDs in his own name when he is arrested at about 1:50pm.  His name was passed on to the FBI and Hosty around 2pm.  So what could be so mysterious about Hosty knowing that LHO was a Communist at 3:15pm?  Bizarre.

His name was passed on to the FBI and Hosty around 2pm.

OK...No Problem....  So Lee immediately told them...."My Name is Lee Oswald and I live at 1026 N. Beckley, where I'm registered  as O.H. Lee....Fritz didn't talk to Lee until about 2:45 ...But we know that other detectives were questioning Lee before Fritz returned to Headquarters..... But J. Edgar Hoover in FBI Headquarters in Washington DC knew his identity before 2:15 pm, because Hosty said that at 2:15 SAIC Gordon Shanklin was on the phone with Belmont in Washington DC, and Belmont told Shanklin to send Hosty over to the TSBD to interrogate Lee Harvey Oswald.  It's possible that FBI agent James Bookhout was at the DPD when Lee Oswald was brought into the DPD headquarters, and he immediately called Washington DC and informed them that Lee Oswald had been taken alive.( Look at the scribbled notes, Fritz says that B O present )

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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2019, 08:51:56 PM »
Question...Who was the first person to issue that proclamation?

Answer....An FBI Agent named James Hosty.

At about 2:50 PM on 11/22/63 FBI agent James W. Hosty informed a DPD Detective named Jack Revill, that  Lee Harvey Oswald a Communist had murdered President Kennedy.

In the past few days the scribbled notes of the interrogators of Lee Oswald have been posted in this forum.  The contents of the notes has been hotly debated, but one vital point has been generally ignored ...That is; The time of the commencement of the interrogation. The time is recorded right there on the notes...3:15 pm.

It was subsequent to the commencement of the interrogation that the interrogators learned the suspect's name was Lee Oswald .....And yet FBI agent James Hosty had informed Jack Revill that a communist named Lee Oswald, had murdered the President twenty-five minutes prior to the commencement of the interrogation.

I would like to point out that in the only other encounter with the police Lee Oswald had demanded that an FBI agent be present before he would answer any questions...

Perhaps a few students will recall that when Lee Oswald was arrested for being involved in a shouting match with a Cuban refugee in New Orleans, which resulted in a charge of  disturbing the peace, he demanded that an FBI agent come to the New Orleans jail.

Question:.....  Did Lee Oswald identify himself and demand that an FBI agent be present at Dallas Police headquarters??

Did Lee Oswald identify himself and demand that an FBI agent be present at Dallas Police headquarters??

Here's what Bookhoutsaid that Lee said......as Bookhout recorded it....

Apparently Lee didn't try to evade identifying himself as we've been told.....  Now why in the world would the cops lie about that?   Do you guess that they wanted to paint a picture of Lee being surly and uncooperative?


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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2019, 11:30:10 PM »
Did Lee Oswald identify himself and demand that an FBI agent be present at Dallas Police headquarters??

Here's what Bookhoutsaid that Lee said......as Bookhout recorded it....

Apparently Lee didn't try to evade identifying himself as we've been told.....  Now why in the world would the cops lie about that?   Do you guess that they wanted to paint a picture of Lee being surly and uncooperative?



" He had been advised hat he had been in contact with the Soviet Embassy etc"....

That's kind interesting....Why would Hosty try to intimidate Lee by telling him that the FBI knew that he had been in contact with the Soviet Embassy?    What was the point?

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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2019, 01:45:24 AM »
At about 2:50 PM on 11/22/63 FBI agent James W. Hosty informed a DPD Detective named Jack Revill, that  Lee Harvey Oswald a Communist had murdered President Kennedy.
  When interviewed by the Warren Commission Hosty denied making that statement to Revill.  https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/pdf/WH17_CE_831.pdf
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He [Oswald] had been interviewed by other F.B.I. agents and described in their reports as an avowed communist, a potential spy and a heavy drinker, but never as a potential assassin.
 

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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2019, 01:54:35 AM »
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Mr. STERN. Now tell us what the reason for your making this affidavit was.
Mr. HOSTY. It was to refute the story that appeared in the Dallas Morning News on April 24, 1964, to set the record straight as to what actually did take place in my conversation with Lieutenant Revill.
Mr. STERN. What did that story state?
Mr. HOSTY. It stated in substance, alleged that I was aware that Lee Harvey Oswald was capable of assassinating the President of the United States, but did not dream he would do it.
Mr. STERN. Did you say that?
Mr. HOSTY. No, sir. I want to state for the record at this time that I unequivocally deny ever having made the statement to Lieutenant Revill or to anyone else that, "We knew Lee Harvey Oswald was capable of assassinating the President of the United States, we didn't dream he would do it."
I also want to state at this time that I made no statement to Lieutenant Revill or to any other individual at any time that I or anyone else in the FBI knew that Lee Harvey Oswald was capable of assassinating the President of the United States or possessed any potential for violence.
Prior to the assassination of the President of the United States, I had no information indicating violence on the part of Lee Harvey Oswald. I wish the record to so read.
Hosty was not in hot water with Mr Hoover. He was totally in the crapper. Some of these guys were ready to snitch on their own mother to get out of way of the Director's falling axe.

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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2019, 02:57:07 PM »
  When interviewed by the Warren Commission Hosty denied making that statement to Revill.  https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/pdf/WH17_CE_831.pdf
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Just to keep the record straight ....  Hosty did NOT deny the encounter with Jack Revill....   But Hosty DID attempt to lie his way clear of making the rash statement that the FBI knew that Lee Oswald was capable of murdering the President. 

Hosty knew that Lee had made the hollow threat that "Someone should shoot that S-O-B Kennedy" and Hosty was working under the scheme that Lee Oswald would be linked to Fidel Castro when he blurted that out to Jack Revill.   Hosty thought the plan was to show that Lee Oswald was an agent of Fidel Castro, and use the murder of JFK as a pretext to attack Cuba. 

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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2019, 03:14:09 PM »
Hosty was not in hot water with Mr Hoover. He was totally in the crapper. Some of these guys were ready to snitch on their own mother to get out of way of the Director's falling axe.

Hosty had put Hoover's neck in the noose with his outburst to Jack Revill.....  An honest investigation would have revealed that Hoover was one of the Key ( If not THE principal key) conspirators.

I believe that Hosty was terrified after the murder..... Because he knew that he was in deep stuff....  He forgot which hat he was wearing ( the FBI bonnet, or General Walker's Minute Man cap) and his skivvies were rapidly filling up. 

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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2019, 03:44:14 PM »
Just to keep the record straight ....  Hosty did NOT deny the encounter with Jack Revill....   But Hosty DID attempt to lie his way clear of making the rash statement that the FBI knew that Lee Oswald was capable of murdering the President. 


Jerry, we've all seen the slithering slime in Washington lie about some crooked enterprise that they have been involved in ....  "Well that depends on what you mean by alone" ...."I did not have sex with that woman"

Well that's exactly what Hoover's letter to Rankin was....Hoover knew that Hosty had not said 'WE DIDN'T DREAM THAT HE'D DO IT"  ....Hoover added that so that he could deny the entire statement of ..."We knew that he was capable of assassinating the President but we didn't dream that he'd do it "
Hosty knew that Lee had made the hollow threat that "Someone should shoot that S-O-B Kennedy" and Hosty was working under the scheme that Lee Oswald would be linked to Fidel Castro when he blurted that out to Jack Revill.   Hosty thought the plan was to show that Lee Oswald was an agent of Fidel Castro, and use the murder of JFK as a pretext to attack Cuba.
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