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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: Walt Cakebread on March 02, 2019, 01:57:45 PM
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Question...Who was the first person to issue that proclamation?
Answer....An FBI Agent named James Hosty.
At about 2:50 PM on 11/22/63 FBI agent James W. Hosty informed a DPD Detective named Jack Revill, that Lee Harvey Oswald a Communist had murdered President Kennedy.
In the past few days the scribbled notes of the interrogators of Lee Oswald have been posted in this forum. The contents of the notes has been hotly debated, but one vital point has been generally ignored ...That is; The time of the commencement of the interrogation. The time is recorded right there on the notes...3:15 pm.
It was subsequent to the commencement of the interrogation that the interrogators learned the suspect's name was Lee Oswald .....And yet FBI agent James Hosty had informed Jack Revill that a communist named Lee Oswald, had murdered the President twenty-five minutes prior to the commencement of the interrogation.
I would like to point out that in the only other encounter with the police Lee Oswald had demanded that an FBI agent be present before he would answer any questions...
Perhaps a few students will recall that when Lee Oswald was arrested for being involved in a shouting match with a Cuban refugee in New Orleans, which resulted in a charge of disturbing the peace, he demanded that an FBI agent come to the New Orleans jail.
Question:..... Did Lee Oswald identify himself and demand that an FBI agent be present at Dallas Police headquarters??
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Question...Who was the first person to issue that proclamation?
Answer....An FBI Agent named James Hosty.
At about 2:50 PM on 11/22/63 FBI agent James W. Hosty informed a DPD Detective named Jack Revill, that Lee Harvey Oswald a Communist had murdered President Kennedy.
In the past few days the scribbled notes of the interrogators of Lee Oswald have been posted in this forum. The contents of the notes has been hotly debated, but one vital point has been generally ignored ...That is; The time of the commencement of the interrogation. The time is recorded right there on the notes...3:15 pm.
It was subsequent to the commencement of the interrogation that the interrogators learned the suspect's name was Lee Oswald .....And yet FBI agent James Hosty had informed Jack Revill that a communist named Lee Oswald, had murdered the President twenty-five minutes prior to the commencement of the interrogation.
I would like to point out that in the only other encounter with the police Lee Oswald had demanded that an FBI agent be present before he would answer any questions...
Perhaps a few students will recall that when Lee Oswald was arrested for being involved in a shouting match with a Cuban refugee in New Orleans, which resulted in a charge of disturbing the peace, he demanded that an FBI agent come to the New Orleans jail.
Question:..... Did Lee Oswald identify himself and demand that an FBI agent be present at Dallas Police headquarters??
Same false premise. "Shortly after 2 o'clock, we received information that this man had been captured and taken to the Dallas Police Department. One of our agents called from the Dallas Police Department and identified this man as Lee Harvey Oswald. I immediately recognized the name."
Hosty was the FBI agent in charge of Oswald's file. He knew his background including his pro-commie views. Oswald had multiple IDs in his own name when he is arrested at about 1:50pm. His name was passed on to the FBI and Hosty around 2pm. So what could be so mysterious about Hosty knowing that LHO was a Communist at 3:15pm? Bizarre.
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Same false premise. "Shortly after 2 o'clock, we received information that this man had been captured and taken to the Dallas Police Department. One of our agents called from the Dallas Police Department and identified this man as Lee Harvey Oswald. I immediately recognized the name."
Hosty was the FBI agent in charge of Oswald's file. He knew his background including his pro-commie views. Oswald had multiple IDs in his own name when he is arrested at about 1:50pm. His name was passed on to the FBI and Hosty around 2pm. So what could be so mysterious about Hosty knowing that LHO was a Communist at 3:15pm? Bizarre.
His name was passed on to the FBI and Hosty around 2pm.
OK...No Problem.... So Lee immediately told them...."My Name is Lee Oswald and I live at 1026 N. Beckley, where I'm registered as O.H. Lee....Fritz didn't talk to Lee until about 2:45 ...But we know that other detectives were questioning Lee before Fritz returned to Headquarters..... But J. Edgar Hoover in FBI Headquarters in Washington DC knew his identity before 2:15 pm, because Hosty said that at 2:15 SAIC Gordon Shanklin was on the phone with Belmont in Washington DC, and Belmont told Shanklin to send Hosty over to the TSBD to interrogate Lee Harvey Oswald. It's possible that FBI agent James Bookhout was at the DPD when Lee Oswald was brought into the DPD headquarters, and he immediately called Washington DC and informed them that Lee Oswald had been taken alive.( Look at the scribbled notes, Fritz says that B O present )
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Question...Who was the first person to issue that proclamation?
Answer....An FBI Agent named James Hosty.
At about 2:50 PM on 11/22/63 FBI agent James W. Hosty informed a DPD Detective named Jack Revill, that Lee Harvey Oswald a Communist had murdered President Kennedy.
In the past few days the scribbled notes of the interrogators of Lee Oswald have been posted in this forum. The contents of the notes has been hotly debated, but one vital point has been generally ignored ...That is; The time of the commencement of the interrogation. The time is recorded right there on the notes...3:15 pm.
It was subsequent to the commencement of the interrogation that the interrogators learned the suspect's name was Lee Oswald .....And yet FBI agent James Hosty had informed Jack Revill that a communist named Lee Oswald, had murdered the President twenty-five minutes prior to the commencement of the interrogation.
I would like to point out that in the only other encounter with the police Lee Oswald had demanded that an FBI agent be present before he would answer any questions...
Perhaps a few students will recall that when Lee Oswald was arrested for being involved in a shouting match with a Cuban refugee in New Orleans, which resulted in a charge of disturbing the peace, he demanded that an FBI agent come to the New Orleans jail.
Question:..... Did Lee Oswald identify himself and demand that an FBI agent be present at Dallas Police headquarters??
Did Lee Oswald identify himself and demand that an FBI agent be present at Dallas Police headquarters??
Here's what Bookhoutsaid that Lee said......as Bookhout recorded it....
Apparently Lee didn't try to evade identifying himself as we've been told..... Now why in the world would the cops lie about that? Do you guess that they wanted to paint a picture of Lee being surly and uncooperative?
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Did Lee Oswald identify himself and demand that an FBI agent be present at Dallas Police headquarters??
Here's what Bookhoutsaid that Lee said......as Bookhout recorded it....
Apparently Lee didn't try to evade identifying himself as we've been told..... Now why in the world would the cops lie about that? Do you guess that they wanted to paint a picture of Lee being surly and uncooperative?
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" He had been advised hat he had been in contact with the Soviet Embassy etc"....
That's kind interesting....Why would Hosty try to intimidate Lee by telling him that the FBI knew that he had been in contact with the Soviet Embassy? What was the point?
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At about 2:50 PM on 11/22/63 FBI agent James W. Hosty informed a DPD Detective named Jack Revill, that Lee Harvey Oswald a Communist had murdered President Kennedy.
When interviewed by the Warren Commission Hosty denied making that statement to Revill. https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/pdf/WH17_CE_831.pdf
As a side note...
He [Oswald] had been interviewed by other F.B.I. agents and described in their reports as an avowed communist, a potential spy and a heavy drinker, but never as a potential assassin.
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Mr. STERN. Now tell us what the reason for your making this affidavit was.
Mr. HOSTY. It was to refute the story that appeared in the Dallas Morning News on April 24, 1964, to set the record straight as to what actually did take place in my conversation with Lieutenant Revill.
Mr. STERN. What did that story state?
Mr. HOSTY. It stated in substance, alleged that I was aware that Lee Harvey Oswald was capable of assassinating the President of the United States, but did not dream he would do it.
Mr. STERN. Did you say that?
Mr. HOSTY. No, sir. I want to state for the record at this time that I unequivocally deny ever having made the statement to Lieutenant Revill or to anyone else that, "We knew Lee Harvey Oswald was capable of assassinating the President of the United States, we didn't dream he would do it."
I also want to state at this time that I made no statement to Lieutenant Revill or to any other individual at any time that I or anyone else in the FBI knew that Lee Harvey Oswald was capable of assassinating the President of the United States or possessed any potential for violence.
Prior to the assassination of the President of the United States, I had no information indicating violence on the part of Lee Harvey Oswald. I wish the record to so read.
Hosty was not in hot water with Mr Hoover. He was totally in the crapper. Some of these guys were ready to snitch on their own mother to get out of way of the Director's falling axe.
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When interviewed by the Warren Commission Hosty denied making that statement to Revill. https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/pdf/WH17_CE_831.pdf
As a side note...
Just to keep the record straight .... Hosty did NOT deny the encounter with Jack Revill.... But Hosty DID attempt to lie his way clear of making the rash statement that the FBI knew that Lee Oswald was capable of murdering the President.
Hosty knew that Lee had made the hollow threat that "Someone should shoot that S-O-B Kennedy" and Hosty was working under the scheme that Lee Oswald would be linked to Fidel Castro when he blurted that out to Jack Revill. Hosty thought the plan was to show that Lee Oswald was an agent of Fidel Castro, and use the murder of JFK as a pretext to attack Cuba.
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Hosty was not in hot water with Mr Hoover. He was totally in the crapper. Some of these guys were ready to snitch on their own mother to get out of way of the Director's falling axe.
Hosty had put Hoover's neck in the noose with his outburst to Jack Revill..... An honest investigation would have revealed that Hoover was one of the Key ( If not THE principal key) conspirators.
I believe that Hosty was terrified after the murder..... Because he knew that he was in deep stuff.... He forgot which hat he was wearing ( the FBI bonnet, or General Walker's Minute Man cap) and his skivvies were rapidly filling up.
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Just to keep the record straight .... Hosty did NOT deny the encounter with Jack Revill.... But Hosty DID attempt to lie his way clear of making the rash statement that the FBI knew that Lee Oswald was capable of murdering the President.
Jerry, we've all seen the slithering slime in Washington lie about some crooked enterprise that they have been involved in .... "Well that depends on what you mean by alone" ...."I did not have sex with that woman"
Well that's exactly what Hoover's letter to Rankin was....Hoover knew that Hosty had not said 'WE DIDN'T DREAM THAT HE'D DO IT" ....Hoover added that so that he could deny the entire statement of ..."We knew that he was capable of assassinating the President but we didn't dream that he'd do it "
Hosty knew that Lee had made the hollow threat that "Someone should shoot that S-O-B Kennedy" and Hosty was working under the scheme that Lee Oswald would be linked to Fidel Castro when he blurted that out to Jack Revill. Hosty thought the plan was to show that Lee Oswald was an agent of Fidel Castro, and use the murder of JFK as a pretext to attack Cuba.
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Question...Who was the first person to issue that proclamation?
Answer....An FBI Agent named James Hosty.
At about 2:50 PM on 11/22/63 FBI agent James W. Hosty informed a DPD Detective named Jack Revill, that Lee Harvey Oswald a Communist had murdered President Kennedy.
In the past few days the scribbled notes of the interrogators of Lee Oswald have been posted in this forum. The contents of the notes has been hotly debated, but one vital point has been generally ignored ...That is; The time of the commencement of the interrogation. The time is recorded right there on the notes...3:15 pm.
It was subsequent to the commencement of the interrogation that the interrogators learned the suspect's name was Lee Oswald .....And yet FBI agent James Hosty had informed Jack Revill that a communist named Lee Oswald, had murdered the President twenty-five minutes prior to the commencement of the interrogation.
I would like to point out that in the only other encounter with the police Lee Oswald had demanded that an FBI agent be present before he would answer any questions...
Perhaps a few students will recall that when Lee Oswald was arrested for being involved in a shouting match with a Cuban refugee in New Orleans, which resulted in a charge of disturbing the peace, he demanded that an FBI agent come to the New Orleans jail.
Question:..... Did Lee Oswald identify himself and demand that an FBI agent be present at Dallas Police headquarters??
Question...Who was the first person to issue that proclamation?
Answer....An FBI Agent named James Hosty.
Long before there was any evidence presented ...... The FBI was announcing that Lee Harrrrrrvey Ossssswald was the assassin.
Doesn't anybody find that strange?
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Question...Who was the first person to issue that proclamation?
Answer....An FBI Agent named James Hosty.
Long before there was any evidence presented ...... The FBI was announcing that Lee Harrrrrrvey Ossssswald was the assassin.
Doesn't anybody find that strange?
Hoover knew that Lee Oswald had not been murdered at the TSBD..... And he wanted him in custody or dead, pronto...And he knew that Lee had been told to meet his handler at the Texas Theater. Thus there were three of Hoover's agents at the theater when Lee was arrested....
Did one of those agents pass the revolver to Lee, and tell him that he might need it because the plan had gone amok....
Did they hope that a Dallas cop would shoot first and ask questions later when he saw the revolver in Lee's belt?
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To frame a communist was the best outcome the hawks in the pentagon could wish for as it allowed to green light for Vietnam to escalate and it gave the G.I's going there to fight more anger towards the communist enemy.
It also prevented the W.A.S.P's from having to sacrifice on of their own protestants, for carrying out the hit.
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To frame a communist was the best outcome the hawks in the pentagon could wish for as it allowed to green light for Vietnam to escalate and it gave the G.I's going there to fight more anger towards the communist enemy.
It also prevented the W.A.S.P's from having to sacrifice on of their own protestants, for carrying out the hit.
A "green light" for Vietnam. LOL. Very silly in the context of 1963. If there were any pretext for framing a Commie at that time, it would have been directed to Cuba. I guess that didn't work out since your fantasy conspirators put all the blame on Oswald and ruled out the involvement of Cuba. What a plan! Frame a commie, then absolve the commies of any involvement.
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A "green light" for Vietnam. LOL. Very silly in the context of 1963. If there were any pretext for framing a Commie at that time, it would have been directed to Cuba. I guess that didn't work out since your fantasy conspirators put all the blame on Oswald and ruled out the involvement of Cuba. What a plan! Frame a commie, then absolve the commies of any involvement.
J.F.K was going to pull back from Vietnam, and his killing gave the green light to escalate it. (Facts)
The W.C reported that Oswald the Commie was guilty.(Fact)
So i.m.o!!!! in every G.I's mind the Commies had killed their President.
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A "green light" for Vietnam. LOL. Very silly in the context of 1963. If there were any pretext for framing a Commie at that time, it would have been directed to Cuba. I guess that didn't work out since your fantasy conspirators put all the blame on Oswald and ruled out the involvement of Cuba. What a plan! Frame a commie, then absolve the commies of any involvement.
This is distressing.....I'm compelled to agree with Mr "Smith"...... The murder wasn't committed because of the CIA's mess in Vietnam......
This was the act of utter hatred and revenge ..... and sanctioned by a filthy trapped rat, who was on the brink of going to prison ....LBJ had a choice, either eliminate JFK and grab the White House, or reside in the Big House......
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John Fitzgerald Kennedy, a great and good President, the friend of all people of good will, a believer in the dignity and equality of all human beings, a fighter for justice, an apostle of peace, has been snatched from our midst by the bullet of an assassin. What moved some misguided wretch to do this horrible deed may be never be known to us, but we do know that such acts are commonly stimulated by forces of hatred and malevolence, such as today are eating their way into the bloodstream of American life. What a price we pay for this fanaticism.
from.. Earl Warren -Eulogy for JFK Nov 24, 1963 at the Capitol Rotunda
Atta boy Earl ...nailed that sucker down and drove it home right away Mr Chief Justice >:(