"Out with Bill Shelley in front"


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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: "Out with Bill Shelley in front"
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2018, 04:23:00 PM »
Stanton herself said she spoke to Oswald and he said he was going back in to the breakroom where he just got a soda.

Cite please

Hearsay from Stanton's daughter-in-law.

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Online John Iacoletti

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Offline Rob Caprio

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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2018, 12:06:08 AM »
Stanton signed it, Brian.  That's what "/s/" means.

The FBI altered a statement that Carolyn Arnold signed?  Do tell.

This is from ny "Statements That Sink The WC's Conclusions" series. The key point IMO is that the FBI altered what she stated and not if her statement was signed or not. The FBI repeatedly did this in this case.

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This is why, as I brought to light in Photographic Whitewash (pages 210-11) in early 1967, the Commission's OWN files REVEAL THE PROOF that Mrs. R.E. (Carolyn) Arnold told the FBI that SHE HAD SEEN OSWALD on the FIRST FLOOR that day AT 12:25 P.M.!

Aware of the import, when the FBI interviewed her on November 26, four days after the assassination, it MISTIMED what she said, stating INCORRECTLY that it was a "few minutes BEFORE 12:15 P.M." that she saw Oswald.

When in March, 1964, the Commission asked the FBI to interview all employees in that building and asked them to respond to five Commission questions, Mrs. Arnold STATED THE TIME WAS "AT ABOUT 12:25 P.M."

In taking those March statements the FBI agents who asked the questions wrote out in longhand on yellowpads what they then asked the witnesses to sign. Still acutely aware of the meaning of what Mrs. Arnold said, that she SAW OSWALD ON THE FIRST FLOOR, "between the front door and the double doors to the warehouse," in the handwritten statement the FBI then asked her to sign it again MISTATED the time. The statement SET THE TIME she gave INCORRECTLY still again, placing it at "12:25 A.M."! SHE CORRECTED THIS IN HER OWN HANDWRITING.

The FBI then typed these handwritten statements for the Commission. In even its typed form, in facsimile on page 211 of that third of my books, it is APPARENT that the time was CHANGED from A.M. TO P.M. The "P.M." is the ONLY typing on that full page that is OUT OF LINE. It is considerably above the line, as happened with the typewriters of those days when what is typed is REMOVED and then PLACED BACK in the typewriter.

Harold Weisberg, Case Open, Carroll & Graf, 1994, pages 122-23 (Emphasis mine)

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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: "Out with Bill Shelley in front"
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2018, 08:20:23 PM »
No, we're saying that you are stating things as fact that are not fact.

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Re: "Out with Bill Shelley in front"
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2018, 10:17:07 PM »
Great.. two idiots at the same time....

Did he have it on at the TSBD on 11/22/63, or at Bledsoe's house when he stayed there, or on television showing him after his arrest..... and so on...... 

OK boys, show us where she said he had it on on the bus!

And don't be afraid to show off your reading inability!

If you put as much effort into reading the evidence as you put into your weak insults then maybe you wouldn't be known as the Forum Clown.

Mr. BALL - Had you ever seen him wear this shirt before, when he was around your house?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - No.
Mr. BALL - First time you ever saw the shirt was when you saw him on the bus?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Uh-huh.


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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: "Out with Bill Shelley in front"
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2018, 10:21:44 PM »
If you put as much effort into reading the evidence as you put into your weak insults then maybe you wouldn't be known as the Forum Clown.

Mr. BALL - Had you ever seen him wear this shirt before, when he was around your house?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - No.
Mr. BALL - First time you ever saw the shirt was when you saw him on the bus?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Uh-huh.


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Uh-huh....... wtf?

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Offline John Mytton

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Re: "Out with Bill Shelley in front"
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2018, 10:37:34 PM »
Uh-huh....... wtf?

uh-huh interjection
\ᵊm or ᵊn, repeated and separated by the voiceless sound h;  ˈəⁿ-(ˌ)həⁿ, (ˌ)əⁿ-ˈ\
Definition of uh-huh
?used to indicate affirmation, agreement, or gratification

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/uh-huh

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Offline Steve Howsley

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Re: "Out with Bill Shelley in front"
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2018, 10:44:19 PM »
uh-huh interjection
\ᵊm or ᵊn, repeated and separated by the voiceless sound h;  ˈəⁿ-(ˌ)həⁿ, (ˌ)əⁿ-ˈ\
Definition of uh-huh
?used to indicate affirmation, agreement, or gratification

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/uh-huh

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She used "Uh-huh" more than 60 times in her WC testimony and in each instance the only sensible interpretation is that it means "Yes".

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/bledsoe.htm

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