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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: Who is this fellow... and why does he look away from the president?
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2018, 01:27:40 AM »
Hardhat doesn't really act like he's responding to a noise. There are also three black ladies in the picture looking in the same direction as 'Hardhat'... were they identified? A motorcycle cop was [also] sort of looking around. The DCM had been noticed in the pictures with the walkie talkie over 50 years ago. No one cared then either.
Wow... 50 years ago... Official investigators seem to lack necessary curiosity... and the reason.....

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2018, 01:47:54 AM »
Official investigators seem to lack ...
Integrity.

Offline Jake Maxwell

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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2018, 01:56:17 AM »
Integrity.
I think the reason is that they didn't want to draw attention to anything that might cause them to alter the accepted storyline...

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Who is this fellow... and why does he look away from the president?
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2018, 04:16:58 AM »
Consider this view....
Those people shielding their eyes from the sun-
How could a gunman make any kind of an accurate shot facing into such glare?



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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2018, 06:16:07 AM »
My apologies, the Willis picture I posted was too large and cut Millican out. I've resized it and it shows him physically reacting at Z202.  Later at Z255, the original picture in this thread, he regains his composure, and is looking towards the Dal-Tex. I should have put that one in chronological order as well, but thought it would have been understood.

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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2018, 07:54:46 AM »
Another walkie talkie/ radio in Dealey Plaza? Does anybody have a copy of a list of channels that the shooting teams were using? Multiple shooters, multiple spotters and still, they could only get one shot on the bullseye.
These guys sucked.

  Here are two more guys talking on walkie talkies in one photo indicated by red arrows.  Maybe they are talking to each other.  I think they are. The lower shooter is circled in red.  On the third floor, I circled what I used to believe were two more shooters and spotters.  However, I was told that the window was closed. But may it be possible that this appearance was caused by smoke from rifles or Havana victory cigars instead?  Otherwise, the other shooter may be firing from Zapruder's office or higher, which is not shown in this photo. Other photos show several open windows above in the DalTex that could have held excellent SN's.  This is a huge photo, so please scroll around and zoom in and out.  I beg of anyone who responds to this photo not to bring up Lovelady, Oswald or some secretary.  I agree with you, Steve Logan, on at least one thing -  These guys sucked.

   

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Re: Who is this fellow... and why does he look away from the president?
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2018, 10:12:57 AM »
Another walkie talkie/ radio in Dealey Plaza? Does anybody have a copy of a list of channels that the shooting teams were using? Multiple shooters, multiple spotters and still, they could only get one shot on the bullseye.
These guys sucked.

Here's another walkie talkie for you officer. The photo was taken as the motorcade was still beneath the underpass.  The command post for all these frequencies was either the Dallas Civil Defense Facility or the SS command center at the Sheraton Hotel which was also hosting George H. W. Bush.

Regarding the Civil Defense Center:  An oilman with connections to the Bush family, Crichton was the failed Republican nominee in the 1964 Texas gubernatorial race.  Bush was the failed Senator in 1964.  In his book, Family of Secrets, veteran reporter Russ Baker notes: (sorry for the caps]

IN APRIL 1, 1962, DALLAS CIVIL DEFENSE, WITH CRICHTON HEADING ITS INTELLIGENCE COMPONENT, OPENED AN ELABORATE UNDERGROUND COMMAND POST UNDER THE PATIO OF THE DALLAS HEALTH AND SCIENCE MUSEUM. BECAUSE IT WAS INTENDED FOR ?CONTINUITY-OF-GOVERNMENT? OPERATIONS DURING AN ATTACK, IT WAS FULLY EQUIPPED WITH COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT.  WITH THIS SHELTER IN OPERATION ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963, IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR SOMEONE BASED THERE TO COMMUNICATE WITH POLICE AND OTHER EMERGENCY SERVICES. THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT THE WARREN COMMISSION OR ANY OTHER INVESTIGATIVE BODY OR EVEN JFK ASSASSINATION RESEARCHERS LOOKED INTO THIS FACILITY OR THE POLICE AND ARMY INTELLIGENCE FIGURES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

No tapes or transcripts of these two facilities have ever been made public.  Yes, these guys sucked!





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Re: Who is this fellow... and why does he look away from the president?
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2019, 03:37:58 AM »
Bump... this curious thread.
I was looking again at the Altgens photo in reply #25. There is a guy that is really really tall wearing sunglasses...slide and look between the left shoulder of the SS guy on the Queen Mary and the motorcycle cop [Hargis?] He looks more like a Fed than all the Feds do. Also reply #16--the last picture---slide over between the camera and the press bus--a suit looking just as casual as can be.
How can anyone examining these photos with all the odd characters..guys with hand radios- umbrella and stuff..not suspect there might have been a coup going on?

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« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2019, 08:26:15 AM »

Greer. the Limo driver, looks back when JFK is hit st Z223 and STILL doesn't get it? he slows the limo down? WTF??  Sees the President slumping and :... oh well, IDK,  lets  just let off the accelerator and slow the car down to almost a stop,  and wait for another 4.8 seconds so the gunman can aim and get a head shot. HUH???

Are we supposed to beleive that SS agents, would be so oblivious to 3 rifle shots. but dont recognize those as shots, spaced EVENLY over 8.5 seconds or longer? It takes Clint Hill to jump off and run to JFK Limo to get Gteer to react FINALLY??  The other SS agents.. they seem totally oblivous even AFTER its quite apparent somebody has been shooting bullets, not "firecrackers"

The vast majority of crowd DOESNT GET IT EITHER??? It take Gloria Cavalry running up and eclaiming "The Shot the President" before the crowd of person at Elm st and in front of TSBD FINALLY GET IT???

This the reason, imo that 3 shots were fired VERY RAPIDLY in less that 5 seconds just at Harold Norman and Lee Bowers have demonstrated their respective video interviews.

 3 shots in 4.5 sec and last 2 shots only 1 sec apart, would explain the confusion, and Greer. because it is NOT a 8.5 or 10 second even spacing of 3 shots but a 1...2.3 rapid fire  , the 3rd shot NOT taking 4.8 seconds from 2nd shot, but so close that Greer could not have reacted any faster.



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Re: Who is this fellow... and why does he look away from the president?
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2019, 09:22:45 AM »
Greer. the Limo driver, looks back when JFK is hit st Z223 and STILL doesn't get it? he slows the limo down? WTF??  Sees the President slumping and :... oh well, IDK,  lets  just let off the accelerator and slow the car down to almost a stop,  and wait for another 4.8 seconds so the gunman can aim and get a head shot. HUH???

Are we supposed to beleive that SS agents, would be so oblivious to 3 rifle shots. but dont recognize those as shots, spaced EVENLY over 8.5 seconds or longer? It takes Clint Hill to jump off and run to JFK Limo to get Gteer to react FINALLY??  The other SS agents.. they seem totally oblivous even AFTER its quite apparent somebody has been shooting bullets, not "firecrackers"

The vast majority of crowd DOESNT GET IT EITHER??? It take Gloria Cavalry running up and eclaiming "The Shot the President" before the crowd of person at Elm st and in front of TSBD FINALLY GET IT???

This the reason, imo that 3 shots were fired VERY RAPIDLY in less that 5 seconds just at Harold Norman and Lee Bowers have demonstrated their respective video interviews.

 3 shots in 4.5 sec and last 2 shots only 1 sec apart, would explain the confusion, and Greer. because it is NOT a 8.5 or 10 second even spacing of 3 shots but a 1...2.3 rapid fire  , the 3rd shot NOT taking 4.8 seconds from 2nd shot, but so close that Greer could not have reacted any faster.

Have you ever considered the possibility that Greer slowed down because he thought the shots were coming from in front of him?
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