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JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: Ross Lidell on April 21, 2020, 01:03:50 AM
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Officer J.D. Tippit was murdered on 22 November 1963: The day that President Kennedy was assassinated.
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Dale Myers was commissioned to write the text for that.
Judy Vary Baker was calling for the sign to be removed. Feels it is an injustice to Oswald.
She doesn't like Dale Myers.
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Officer J.D. Tippit was murdered on 22 November 1963: The day that President Kennedy was assassinated.
(https://i.imgur.com/JvZsXph.jpg)
That sign has been at 10th/Patton for some time now. Why are you posting it now?
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Interesting the word "allegedly" is not used in the text unlike the sign at the front of the TSBD.
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That sign has been at 10th/Patton for some time now. Why are you posting it now?
Just discovered it recently.
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Interesting the word "allegedly" is not used in the text unlike the sign at the front of the TSBD.
Indeed, but not surprising if Myers wrote the text.
Brewer hearing about Tippit's murder on the radio is a special touch, as nobody has ever been able to identify a station that aired something like that so quickly.
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Indeed, but not surprising if Myers wrote the text. Brewer hearing about Tippit's murder on the radio is a special touch, as nobody has ever been able to identify a station that aired something like that so quickly.
It was written and erected for flat earth believers.
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It was written and erected for flat earth believers.
Idiotic comment. It's also a generalization. You're implying that all people who don't believe the earth is flat do not agree with the content of the plaque. Proof please.
Why don't you go through the text and, point-by-point, challenge each statement you disagree with?
Assertions or speculation will not do. Please provide alternate explanations: names, places, dates for everything you disagree with.
If you cannot or will not explain what you think actually happened when Officer J.D. Tippit was murdered... you're just another contrarian.
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Officer J.D. Tippit was murdered on 22 November 1963: The day that President Kennedy was assassinated.
Should have used 'allegedly' to accurately reflect the historical record.
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Should have used 'allegedly' to accurately reflect the historical record.
Should have used 'allegedly' to accurately reflect the historical record.
I'm satisfied with the text as it is.
Do we read in the historical record that Brutus "allegedly" stabbed Julius Caesar during the assassination?
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Should have used 'allegedly' to accurately reflect the historical record.
Agreed... Oswald was never convicted and there is sufficient reasonable doubt to use the term 'allegedly'
They did so on the plaque fixed to the TSBD...
Should have used 'allegedly' to accurately reflect the historical record.
I'm satisfied with the text as it is.
Do we read in the historical record that Brutus "allegedly" stabbed Julius Caesar during the assassination?
I'm satisfied with the text as it is.
Says the contrarian
Do we read in the historical record that Brutus "allegedly" stabbed Julius Caesar during the assassination?
Yes. We don't know what really happened. All we know is what the official story is, but that's written by the victor.
Along the same lines; do we read in the historical record that King Richard IV killed the boys in the tower?
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It was written and erected for flat earth believers.
It was written and erected for flat earth believers.
I never understood why some folks are offended by the confederate Flag.......But After reading the plaque
I now understand why some folks are offended by statues of Civil war soldiers and the Confederate flag.
That plaque is a pack of lies ..... And it makes me pause and wonder how many plaques around the nation are simply figments of imagination.
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It was written and erected for flat earth believers.
I never understood why some folks are offended by the confederate Flag.......But After reading the plaque
I now understand why some folks are offended by statues of Civil war soldiers and the Confederate flag.
That plaque is a pack of lies ..... And it makes me pause and wonder how many plaques around the nation are simply figments of imagination.
So what's the (alternate) truth, Walt?
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Should have used 'allegedly' to accurately reflect the historical record.
I'm satisfied with the text as it is.
Do we read in the historical record that Brutus "allegedly" stabbed Julius Caesar during the assassination?
'I'm satisfied with the text as it is'
> It's folly to leave out 'allegedly'; Oswald had no trial.
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So what's the (alternate) truth, Walt?
It's obvious that this Tippit Plaque was erected by the DPD ...... They are still scraping and pawing while trying to cover up the stinking mess that was created 56 years ago.
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Agreed... Oswald was never convicted and there is sufficient reasonable doubt to use the term 'allegedly'
They did so on the plaque fixed to the TSBD...
I'm satisfied with the text as it is.
Says the contrarian
Do we read in the historical record that Brutus "allegedly" stabbed Julius Caesar during the assassination?
Yes. We don't know what really happened. All we know is what the official story is, but that's written by the victor.
Along the same lines; do we read in the historical record that King Richard IV killed the boys in the tower?
Says the contrarian
From the Internet: A typical contrarian trope takes the form, "everything you know about topic X is wrong".
Sound familiar? You dispute every piece of evidence in the Assassination of JFK routinely but never provide one piece of evidence to the contrary.
Just because you put forward a "limp" response, naming me as what I accurately describe you: Does not make me a contrarian.
I refer to the known body of evidence that points fairly and squarely to Lee Harvey Oswald as the assassin of President John F. Kennedy and murderer of Officer J.D. Tippit. All you can do is deny, deny, deny without exception: the classic contrarian.
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'I'm satisfied with the text as it is'
> It's folly to leave out 'allegedly'; Oswald had no trial.
Brutus had no trial.
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It's obvious that this Tippit Plaque was erected by the DPD ...... They are still scraping and pawing while trying to cover up the stinking mess that was created 56 years ago.
It's obvious that this Tippit Plaque was erected by the DPD.
That's NOT obvious. The plaque is the property of the state of Texas.
PROVE that the plaque was erected by the Dallas Police Department.
*** This is easy as shooting fish in a barrel***
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Says the contrarian
From the Internet: A typical contrarian trope takes the form, "everything you know about topic X is wrong".
Sound familiar?
Yes... whatever anybody says that does not agree with your opinion is deemed to be wrong by you. That's the definition of a contrarian.
You dispute every piece of evidence in the Assassination of JFK routinely but never provide one piece of evidence to the contrary.
No, I don't dispute every piece of evidence. Stop misrepresenting!
Just because you put forward a "limp" response, naming me as what I accurately describe you: Does not make me a contrarian.
But it does... If you call me a contrarian for not agreeing with your opinion, I likewise can call you a contrarian for exactly the same reason.
I refer to the known body of evidence that points fairly and squarely to Lee Harvey Oswald as the assassin of President John F. Kennedy and murderer of Officer J.D. Tippit.
I know what you refer to, but it it points fairly and squarely to Oswald as the killer is only your opinion.
In fact many of the WC's conclusions are not supported by the evidence they have presented in the 26 volumes.
Add to that the enormous amount of assumptions they needed to superficially connect the dots and what you end up with is a theory that doesn't stand closer scrutiny.
All you can do is deny, deny, deny without exception: the classic contrarian.
I deny that... ;)
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Brutus had no trial.
Hilarious.... Brutus was a conspirator. Conspirators who win don't put eachother on trial.....
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Hilarious.... Brutus was a conspirator. Conspirators who win don't put eachother on trial.....
Et tu Brute!
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Brutus had no trial.
Trials aren't about the truth.
Trials are about who wins the argument.
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Et tu Brute!
That's what happens when you consider yourself to be more intelligent than everybody else.
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Et tu Brute!
There's no proof that JC said that, in actuality
Sorry, 'Shakespeare'..
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That's what happens when you consider yourself to be more intelligent than everybody else.
It's not that which I claim: Just that others are more willfully "unintelligent" in their "weaving and dodging" responses.
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It's not that which I claim: Just that others are more willfully "unintelligent" in their "weaving and dodging" responses.
Says the guy who thinks that he is more intelligent than everybody else....
You are not a contrarian for nothing. Can you show me one post in which you have agreed with anything anybody who disagrees with you in the thread has said?
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Says the guy who thinks that he is more intelligent than everybody else....
I just explained my attitude, you ignored it. Let me make this perfectly clear: When otherwise intelligent people talk nonsense to "avoid addressing the plain details of the matter", they automatically go down in one's estimation of them. Even highly intelligent people "dodge and weave" intellectually. Do you recall the "Rhodes Scholar" who said: "I did not have sex with that woman".
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I just explained my attitude, you ignored it. Let me make this perfectly clear: When otherwise intelligent people talk nonsense to "avoid addressing the plain details of the matter", they automatically go down in one's estimation of them. Even highly intelligent people "dodge and weave" intellectually. Do you recall the "Rhodes Scholar" who said: "I did not have sex with that woman".
I just explained my attitude, you ignored it.
No I didn't. I simply didn't believe it
Let me make this perfectly clear: When otherwise intelligent people talk nonsense to "avoid addressing the plain details of the matter", they automatically go down in one's estimation of them.
And who makes the determination that otherwise intelligent people talk "nonsense"?.... You, right?
And what about the "plain details of the matter"? Who decides they are correct and not flawed? Again, you, right?
So spare me the BS... what you are actually saying is that people have to agree with you because otherwise they go down in your "estimation of them". Not one moment will you even consider that they could be right....
Even highly intelligent people "dodge and weave" intellectually.
But you don't, right? You are the only straightshooter on this forum, right?
Just to be clear; it isn't the mark of an intelligent mind to underestimate and dismiss what others say as "nonsense"!
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I just explained my attitude, you ignored it. Let me make this perfectly clear: When otherwise intelligent people talk nonsense to "avoid addressing the plain details of the matter", they automatically go down in one's estimation of them. Even highly intelligent people "dodge and weave" intellectually. Do you recall the "Rhodes Scholar" who said: "I did not have sex with that woman".
Yeah. He lied about a private, consensual relationship. Which harmed no one.
Some other guys lied about WMDs. Millions have died, and ISIS is still around.
Some other guy lied about a virus. 42,000 dead, several hundred thousand sick, economy in shambles.
It's all about scale, oh great Clinton hater.
And no, oh great Dale Meyers fan, Oswald did not shoot Tippit at 1:15.
Aside: Dale Meyers is a veritable clone of Captain Westbrook and Hugh Aynesworth, two prevaricators who were everywhere that day, TSB, Parkland, Tippit scene and Texas Theatre.
Just like Meyers, who's not just an expert on one shooting, but.. both! ( ?) Even though he comprehends nothing about ballistics, land surveys, autopsies, altered police reports, etc.
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I just explained my attitude, you ignored it.
No I didn't. I simply didn't believe it
Let me make this perfectly clear: When otherwise intelligent people talk nonsense to "avoid addressing the plain details of the matter", they automatically go down in one's estimation of them.
And who makes the determination that otherwise intelligent people talk "nonsense"?.... You, right?
And what about the "plain details of the matter"? Who decides they are correct and not flawed? Again, you, right?
So spare me the BS... what you are actually saying is that people have to agree with you because otherwise they go down in your "estimation of them". Not one moment will you even consider that they could be right....
Even highly intelligent people "dodge and weave" intellectually.
But you don't, right? You are the only straightshooter on this forum, right?
Just to be clear; it isn't the mark of an intelligent mind to underestimate and dismiss what others say as "nonsense"!
So spare me the BS... what you are actually saying is that people have to agree with you because otherwise they go down in your "estimation of them". Not one moment will you even consider that they could be right....
No! If they "dodge and weave".
How can they be right when they don't put forward a theory with some evidence?
If people disagree with me: I expect them to put forward an "explanation" based on evidence not speculation and conjecture.
To stop being a "contrarian", you will have to (at least once), explain what you think happened as opposed to ignoring the historical record which you appear to disbelieve--in every instance.
Someone posted that Randle was given the TSBD job information by the CIA and ordered to pass on the details to Ruth Paine and Marina Oswald through the Roberts coffee klatch. An idiotic theory, but at least he tried.
Start a Subject, Martin: Just one Subject. Is that too hard for you to accomplish?
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Assertions or speculation will not do.
This entire plaque is assertions and speculations.
Myers’ propaganda has no business on something called a “historical marker”.
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So spare me the BS... what you are actually saying is that people have to agree with you because otherwise they go down in your "estimation of them". Not one moment will you even consider that they could be right....
No! If they "dodge and weave".
Thanks for proving my point. And of course, you are the one who decides if somebody does "dodge and weave". Kinda convenient, right?
How can they be right when they don't put forward a theory with some evidence?
If people disagree with me: I expect them to put forward an "explanation" based on evidence not speculation and conjecture.
And there is the fatal flaw in your reasoning. When you put forward a claim others can agree or disagree with it. When somebody disagrees they can explain why they disagree and for any reasonable person that would be enough, but not for you. You go straight into "you need to have a theory and proof" which is total BS. The other person isn't putting forward a claim. He is merely telling you why he thinks your claim is wrong. All this "you need to have a theory and proof" crap is only intended for the purpose of being able to dismiss whatever they tell you.
Thinking that people can not be right when they don't comply with your additional requirements is just plain stupid. This is just about the most dumbest thing you've said so far.
To stop being a "contrarian", you will have to (at least once), explain what you think happened as opposed to ignoring the historical record which you appear to disbelieve--in every instance.
First of all, I don't disbelieve the historical record in every instance. That's just something you made up to be able to argue. In fact, it is my opinion that a large portion of the historical record is probably factual and correct.
And secondly, you don't get to tell me what I should or should not do.
Someone posted that Randle was given the TSBD job information by the CIA and ordered to pass on the details to Ruth Paine and Marina Oswald through the Roberts coffee klatch. An idiotic theory, but at least he tried.
I am not that someone. I don't like speculation and assumptions. That's exactly why I am critical of the WC report. It's full of speculation, assumptions and conclusions that are not supported by the evidence in the 26 volumes.
But thank you for showing how your mind works.... You want people to come up with a theory, so you can dismiss it and call it idiotic! That's the only purpose of that game you try to play time after time. It's nothing more that a variation of the strawman strategy.
Start a Subject, Martin: Just one Subject. Is that too hard for you to accomplish?
Already did... you are not paying attention! I actually started only 2 threads less than you!
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This entire plaque is assertions and speculations.
Myers’ propaganda has no business on something called a “historical marker”.
What would you write on that plaque?
"Here is where J.D. Tippit allegedly died. Some say he was badgeman on the grassy knoll. Some say he set up Oswald as a patsy for the JFK assassination".
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What would you write on that plaque?
"Here is where J.D. Tippit allegedly died. Some say he was badgeman on the grassy knoll. Some say he set up Oswald as a patsy for the JFK assassination".
I was thinking that too. Describing speculative alternatives would be rather convoluted and confusing.
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What would you write on that plaque?
"Here is where J.D. Tippit allegedly died. Some say he was badgeman on the grassy knoll. Some say he set up Oswald as a patsy for the JFK assassination".
I was thinking that too. Describing speculative alternatives would be rather convoluted and confusing.
It seems drama queens think alike...
How about; "Here is where J.D. Tippit died. He was allegedly shot by Lee Harvey Oswald"
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What would you write on that plaque?
"Here is where J.D. Tippit allegedly died. Some say he was badgeman on the grassy knoll. Some say he set up Oswald as a patsy for the JFK assassination".
Why does it have to say anything about Oswald? Isn't the purpose of the plaque to honor Tippit, killed in the line of duty? But if it does, it could say "allegedly" like the TSBD and not reiterate a litany of Dale Myers' assumptions about what happened afterwards.
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What would you write on that plaque?
No need to mention Oswald
'Tippit was gunned down by Mystery Guest #2;
AKA the nobody who allegedly shot the somebody'
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https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/memorial-to-5-officers-killed-in-dallas-to-be-unveiled/231518/
https://www.keranews.org/post/memorial-5-officers-killed-dallas-unveiled
Their assailant was identified only as a lone gunman.
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Our resident kooks should stop wasting their time crying here and petition Oak Cliff to change the sign. They can provide their contrarian reasons for doing so such as "LOL." I can't wait to hear the response of the folks in Texas including law enforcement when these nut jobs start defaming Tippit with bizarre claims like he was involved in the plot and gunning for Oswald etc. Contrarian kooks of the world unite behind this important cause!
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Strawman "Smith" is back for another round of his kooky time-wasting crying.
P.S. "Oak Cliff" didn't erect the sign.
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It seems drama queens think alike...
How about; "Here is where J.D. Tippit died. He was allegedly shot by Lee Harvey Oswald"
How about.....On this spot DPD Officer J.D. Tippit was murdered at 1:06 pm on 11/22/63. The murder set off one of the most improbable and unbelievable legends in the history of the Unites States. This legend has taken root in history, but it will someday be exposed as a wild Texas tale like the legend of Billy the Kid, or Bonnie and Clyde
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Billy The Kid is a wild New Mexico tale!
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Billy The Kid is a wild New Mexico tale!
Ok, I could have said a wild tale from the American SW where many colorful tales are spawned ....
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Our resident kooks should stop wasting their time crying here and petition Oak Cliff to change the sign.
The THC does this. Maybe...for a big enough donation. They did change the marker at the Texas Theater. Maybe they will install one at the 1026 N Beckley house someday. "Here resided Lee "The Flash" Oswald"
TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION. The Texas Historical Commission was established as the Texas State Historical Survey Committee by the Texas legislature in 1953 to lead, coordinate, sponsor projects, and act as a clearinghouse and information center to survey, record, preserve, restore, and mark all phases of Texas history by working with and through state, regional, and local groups and individuals.
https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/mdt17
I know...let's submit some more useless threads to illustrate our manifest preconceived opinions.
"Those who refuse to change their minds..will never change anything."
Winston Churchill
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The THC does this. Maybe...for a big enough donation. They did change the marker at the Texas Theater. Maybe they will install one at the 1026 N Beckley house someday. "Here resided Lee "The Flash" Oswald"https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/mdt17
I know...let's submit some more useless threads to illustrate our manifest preconceived opinions.
"Those who refuse to change their minds..will never change anything."
Winston Churchill
It's clear to me that The DPD is still very touchy about the coup d e'tat.....They awarded John Calvin Brewer some sort of medal or recognition for his role in apprehending Lee Oswald....... And this plaque is further indication that they want to convince the public that Lee Oswald was the culprit. The truth needs no plaque, supports, or props..... Truth stands without the necessity of props or plaques....
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"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
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"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
Josef Goebbels
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It's clear to me that The DPD is still very touchy about the coup d e'tat.....
The entire Dallas haute autorité is. They tried to run off Robert Groden every time he showed his face in Dealey Plaza.
The County people too. Their offices are in the old TSBD. They don't want street preachers hawking Oswald was innocent books within eye shot.
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The entire Dallas haute autorité is. They tried to run off Robert Groden every time he showed his face in Dealey Plaza.
The County people too. Their offices are in the old TSBD. They don't want street preachers hawking Oswald was innocent books within eye shot.
Robert Groden knew his rights as an American..... And he refused to be bullied by the Dallas mob.
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The THC does this. Maybe...for a big enough donation. They did change the marker at the Texas Theater. Maybe they will install one at the 1026 N Beckley house someday. "Here resided Lee "The Flash" Oswald"https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/mdt17
I know...let's submit some more useless threads to illustrate our manifest preconceived opinions.
"Those who refuse to change their minds..will never change anything."
Winston Churchill
This is great in that it highlights the unwillingness of kooks to venture outside online forums and into the real world. Demonstrating at least a dim subconscious understanding of the absurdity of their own nonsense. Instead they want to debate who has authority over the sign! You can't make that up. Comedy gold. How about this? Petition the THC or whomever to change it based upon your "evidence" of Oswald's innocence! Make sure to explain that Tippit was "in" on the plot etc. Get back to us with the results.
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This is great in that it highlights the unwillingness of kooks to venture outside online forums and into the real world. Demonstrating at least a dim subconscious understanding of the absurdity of their own nonsense. Instead they want to debate who has authority over the sign! You can't make that up. Comedy gold. How about this? Petition the THC or whomever to change it based upon your "evidence" of Oswald's innocence! Make sure to explain that Tippit was "in" on the plot etc. Get back to us with the results.
Idiot! Nobody is debating who has authority over the sign. You said it was Oak Cliff and you were wrong.
Stop wasting everybody's time with your drivel.
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Fabricated Nazi Quotations
https://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/falsenaziquotations.htm
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Idiot! Nobody is debating who has authority over the sign. You said it was Oak Cliff and you were wrong.
Strawman "Smith" hates it when he gets exposed for saying something stupid. Which is pretty much every post.
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Idiot! Nobody is debating who has authority over the sign. You said it was Oak Cliff and you were wrong.
Stop wasting everybody's time with your drivel.
In which we are told that "Nobody is debating who has authority over the sign." But without missing a beat Martin/Roger can't help himself but goes on to address who he believes - wait for it - wait for it - has authority over the sign. HA HA HA. More gold. And he informs us with no authority whatsoever that Oak Cliff doesn't have any authority over signs on their own public streets? I'm sure that is news to them. But again, that kind of idiocy proves my original point. Kooks want to limit their ramblings to an Internet forum because they have a dim realization of how absurd they really are. Prove me wrong though and share your nutty concern with the real world. Take it up with whomever you believe has authority over that sign and stop crying here about it. Just convince them with your contrarian arguments that there is doubt. You can do it Roger! You aren't just some Internet loon who spends all his waking time on a JFK assassination forum. Right? Let us know the results.
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And he informs us with no authority whatsoever that Oak Cliff doesn't have any authority over signs on their own public streets?
Oak Cliff isn't even a city. But by all means, keep up the comic relief, "Richard"!
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Shocking. The kooks want to go down a rabbit hole here about who has authority over public street signs instead of taking their issue up with someone in the real world who could correct whatever error they believe the sign contains. That is understandable due to the absurdity of their claim. Imagine a sane person in Texas getting that call from one of these nuts. Again, though, prove me wrong and take it up with the THC, Oak Cliff, Dallas, the State of Texas, NASA, or whomever you believe has authority over the particular sign. Here's a clue to help. You can't just put up a permanent sign on a public street without approval from a municipal authority. That is not the THC but a governmental entity that must approve it. Good luck.
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Strawman "Smith" hates it when he gets exposed for saying something stupid. Which is pretty much every post.
I don't recall Dicky "Smith" ever posting anything intelligent. I love it when he's served a little crow....
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Shocking. The kooks want to go down a rabbit hole here about who has authority over public street signs instead of taking their issue up with someone in the real world who could correct whatever error they believe the sign contains. That is understandable due to the absurdity of their claim. Imagine a sane person in Texas getting that call from one of these nuts. Again, though, prove me wrong and take it up with the THC, Oak Cliff, Dallas, the State of Texas, NASA, or whomever you believe has authority over the particular sign. Here's a clue to help. You can't just put up a permanent sign on a public street without approval from a municipal authority. That is not the THC but a governmental entity that must approve it. Good luck.
Now, look who desperately wants to debate a point he has already lost?
Wanna throw another hissy fit?
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Why did Dulles ask Curry about a rumor that Tippit was involved in some kind of "narcotic trouble"?
Is this how Tippit was pressured into joining the plot? Ruby too? #badgeman
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Shocking. The kooks want to go down a rabbit hole here about who has authority over public street signs instead of taking their issue up with someone in the real world who could correct whatever error they believe the sign contains.
Who says they're not? That doesn't stop us from laughing at your ignorance.
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Good luck.
The only part of all that babbling nonsense that means anything.
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Now, look who desperately wants to debate a point he has already lost?
Wanna throw another hissy fit?
This from the guy who suggested that the Texas Historical Commission has authority over public street signs in Oak Cliff. Such profound ignorance. To place such a sign on a public street they have to obtain the approval of the governmental authority. And Roger is supposed to have some legal background. Your contrarian brother suggested that efforts could be made to change the content of the sign. Please share those efforts with us for a good laugh! I'm sure that is another lie as he is too lazy to do so but it would provide additional comedic relief to see the lunacy of these claims exposed in the light of the real world and not hidden on an Internet forum. Imagine the poor civil servant in Dallas that receives that request from a nut job rambling about Oswald's innocence and suggesting Tippit was the bad guy. Complete with his contrarian "evidence." I can't wait to hear the result. Get started Roger. Don't waste another moment here. You can do it!
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This from the guy who suggested that the Texas Historical Commission has authority over public street signs in Oak Cliff. Such profound ignorance. To place such a sign on a public street they have to obtain the approval of the governmental authority. And Roger is supposed to have some legal background. Your contrarian brother suggested that efforts could be made to change the content of the sign. Please share those efforts with us for a good laugh! I'm sure that is another lie as he is too lazy to do so but it would provide additional comedic relief to see the lunacy of these claims exposed in the light of the real world and not hidden on an Internet forum. Imagine the poor civil servant in Dallas that receives that request from a nut job rambling about Oswald's innocence and suggesting Tippit was the bad guy. Complete with his contrarian "evidence." I can't wait to hear the result. Get started Roger. Don't waste another moment here. You can do it!
Wow, that's quite a hissy fit. I didn't think you had it in you....
This from the guy who suggested that the Texas Historical Commission has authority over public street signs in Oak Cliff.
Stop lying, I never suggested anything of the sort.
Your contrarian brother suggested that efforts could be made to change the content of the sign.
I don't have a brother. You're making stuff up again. Do you even have a clue who you are talking to? You seem very confused....
You are getting more delusional by the day...
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I'll bet "Richard" is a lot of fun at parties.
So let's review:
- "Richard" thinks that Oak Cliff is its own city.
- "Richard" thinks that the marker is on a "public street".
- "Richard" thinks that a "public civil servant" in Dallas would have any say over the content of a Texas historical marker.
- "Richard" thinks that anyone on this thread said anything about "Oswald's innocence".
- "Richard" thinks that if somebody writes up something and puts it on a sign that it must be true.
"Richard" is ignorant.
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OAK
Oswald Arse Kissers
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Thanks again Chapman for your useful and relevant observations.
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OAK
Oswald Arse Kissers
My old Grandpa ( God Bless him) used to say..... If you don't have anything intelligent to say....Just remain silent and smile...... Then everybody will wonder what the hell you know that they don't. Perhaps you can use the first part of that Chappie....If you don't have anything intelligent to say....Just remain silent
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Only in Texas.
The accused was murdered (lynched) while in DPD custody. Before he talked to a lawyer and while handcuffed to an officer
Is that on the Plaque?
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My old Grandpa ( God Bless him) used to say..... If you don't have anything intelligent to say....Just remain silent and smile...... Then everybody will wonder what the hell you know that they don't. Perhaps you can use the first part of that Chappie....If you don't have anything intelligent to say....Just remain silent
You lot would love me to remain silent
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You lot would love me to remain silent
Not if you've got something to contribute..... Which you've done on rare occasions.
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You lot would love me to remain silent
Why? You provide good comedy by making a fool of yourself time after time.....
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Not if you've got something to contribute..... Which you've done on rare occasions.
As do you when you're in your sane (ie:LNer) mode
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Says OAK (Oswald Arse Kisser)#1B
See, that's what I mean... Comedy gold...
You actually believe that somebody would dig up a corpse that's been in the ground for 56 years to kiss his arse.... and then you want to be considered to be sane?
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See, that's what I mean... Comedy gold...
You actually believe that somebody would dig up a corpse that's been in the ground for 56 years to kiss his arse.... and then you want to be considered to be sane?
comedy gold
> Not that you didn't rip that off from Richard
You actually believe that somebody would dig up a corpse that's been in the ground for 56 years to kiss his arse.... and then you want to be considered to be sane?
> ::) You just keep digging your (virtual) grave
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comedy gold
> Not that you didn't rip that off from Richard
"Richard" invented "comedy gold"?
Now that's comedy gold!
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comedy gold
> Not that you didn't rip that off from Richard
You actually believe that somebody would dig up a corpse that's been in the ground for 56 years to kiss his arse.... and then you want to be considered to be sane?
> ::) You just keep digging your (virtual) grave
Hilarious...
It's pretty obvious to everybody else that you are just spewing some words hoping that combined they mean something but really don't. It is absolutely comical that you actually believe that you are saying something coherent when you don't even know what the word means...
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'Hilarious'
> Congrats for not ripping off Richard again. Baby steps, OAK... baby steps.
Still desperately trying to be "clever" and failing spectacularly as usual. And you still don't get just how comical this is? Really?
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As do you when you're in your sane (ie:LNer) mode
I have no LNer mode..... But every good lie has to contain some truth......Thus I believe some of the same things that LNer's espouse. As an example...I believe that Lee Oswald did order the rifle from Kleins. I know that this is heresy to most CT's ..... But it simply makes sense. There's so much evidence that Lee did POSSESS ( not necessarily own) a carcano that he used to take the hilarious carnival prop photo ( CE133A) that portrayed him as a rabid, heavily armed, communist revolutionary
I believe a hard headed CT does himself a disservice by denying that Lee ordered the rifle and had a carcano in his possession in April of 1963. But THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATS SO EVER TO DO WITH THE MURDER OF JFK. The rifle was ordered to be used as a stage prop ( CE 133A) and a throw down gun at the scene of the hoax shooting at General Walker's house on 4 /10 /63.
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Not if you've got something to contribute..... Which you've done on rare occasions.
Name one.
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Hilarious...
It's pretty obvious to everybody else that you are just spewing some words hoping that combined they mean something but really don't. It is absolutely comical that you actually believe that you are saying something coherent when you don't even know what the word means...
:'(
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"Richard" invented "comedy gold"?
Now that's comedy gold!
Since when do people 'invent' words
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See, that's what I mean... Comedy gold...
You actually believe that somebody would dig up a corpse that's been in the ground for 56 years to kiss his arse.... and then you want to be considered to be sane?
You actually believe that somebody would dig up a corpse that's been in the ground for 56 years to kiss his arse
Point out where I claim to believe that..
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Name one.
That you lot can't stand mockery
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Since when do people 'invent' words
Who else invents them, Chappers?
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Who else invents them, Chappers?
Words aren't imvented
Try created next time
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That you lot can't stand mockery
Mockery would require that you have the first clue about the subject you’re attempting to mock people over.
And trolls derail threads with “clever” “mockery” because they can’t follow or understand what is being discussed.
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Mockery would require that you have the first clue about the subject you’re attempting to mock people over.
And trolls derail threads with “clever” “mockery” because they can’t follow or understand what is being discussed.
What derailment? I opined that since Oswald is on the Tippit sign, he should be referred to only as the alleged killer of Tippit. Guess you missed that one. Not that you're disingenuous at all.
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Words aren't imvented
Try created next time
Who creates them, Chappers? Try people.
p.s. "Comedy gold" isn't a word. It is a phrase.
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Words aren't imvented
Try created next time
Is "imvented" a word you just have created?
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Trolls jump on typos
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Who creates them, Chappers? Try people.
p.s. "Comedy gold" isn't a word. It is a phrase.
You're still not clever
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Trolls jump on typos
How do you know what a troll would do?...... Oh, wait....
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I,m a firm CT but i can absolutely get on board that LHO was knee deep involved in some aspects of the plot, I million percent believe Tippit was as crooked as they come, his behaviour before and after the shooting of JFK points to a fella being unhinged and erratic, his job IMO was to silence Oswald.
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I,m a firm CT but i can absolutely get on board that LHO was knee deep involved in some aspects of the plot, I million percent believe Tippit was as crooked as they come, his behaviour before and after the shooting of JFK points to a fella being unhinged and erratic, his job IMO was to silence Oswald.
Evidence please?
Incidentally you cannot believe something 1 million percent.
You can only believe something 100%. That's the tops: anything above that is hyperbole.
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How do you know what a troll would do?...... Oh, wait....
You've already shown us what trolls do...by your own jumping on of said typos
Now show us where I jump on typos.
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I,m a firm CT but i can absolutely get on board that LHO was knee deep involved in some aspects of the plot, I million percent believe Tippit was as crooked as they come, his behaviour before and after the shooting of JFK points to a fella being unhinged and erratic, his job IMO was to silence Oswald.
Oswald was involved with O.H. Lee, Alek Hidell, and Dirty Harvey.
That's all the help he needed.
I've already schooled you lot on that.
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You're still not clever
Never said I was, but at least when I'm wrong I admit it. You should try it sometime.
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Never said I was, but at least when I'm wrong I admit it. You should try it sometime.
Wrong about what..
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Wrong about what..
You're wrong in your belief that Lee Oswald shot President Kennedy.
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Oswald was involved with O.H. Lee, Alek Hidell, and Dirty Harvey.
That's all the help he needed.
I've already schooled you lot on that.
If you call irrelevant, pithy retorts "schooling".
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If you call irrelevant, pithy retorts "schooling".
'Schooling' is a dig. And pretty sure (dig) the S&W, card and rooming house are relevant to the assassination.
Go ahead and bah, humbug (dig) the following presentation. And no I can't prove it. But I can express my opinion, and in whatever form I choose.
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THE NOBODY WHO SHOT THE SOMEBODY HAD HELP
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2451.0.html#new
1) Alek Hidell (AKA Lee Harvey Oswald) was in charge of armament procurement
2) O.H. Lee (AKA Lee Harvey Oswald) was in charge of safe-house procurement
3) Dirty Harvey (AKA Lee Harvey Oswald) was in charge of making Lee Harvey Oswald a somebody
Dirty Harry
'Smith, Wesson... and me'
Dirty Harvey
Smith, Wesson... and Lee
'Sudden Impact' 'Smith, Wesson... and me'
(https://i.postimg.cc/6pQk9vQD/card-fun.png)
Alek Hidell (rhymes with Fidel) selective nutjob
(https://i.postimg.cc/4N7n2m6Q/gun-fun.png)
Smith, Wesson... and Lee
(https://i.postimg.cc/L6N6gvvX/small-beckley.png)
O.H. Lee safe-house (no curtain rods)
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Sorry, is there a point in there somewhere?
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Sorry, is there a point in there somewhere?
Yeah, the one you're ignoring
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Who are you trying to kid? You haven't made a point in 11 years.
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Who are you trying to kid? You haven't made a point in 11 years.
I think you're wrong John.
If fact here's a picture of Chappie making a point.
Albeit with a hat it's still a point.
(https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae75/garcra/dunce-cap.jpg)
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:D
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Who are you trying to kid? You haven't made a point in 11 years.
11 years?
News to me.
Cite that.
Post#100 Iacoletti
'If you call irrelevant, pithy retorts "schooling"
The Hidell card, O.H. Lee rooming house, and the @Tippit S&W are more than a little pointed and relevant.
Now answer to that.
Go ahead, make my day..
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I think you're wrong John.
If fact here's a picture of Chappie making a point.
Albeit with a hat it's still a point.
(https://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae75/garcra/dunce-cap.jpg)
Actually, I got a goodly number of detentions in my younger days due to breaking people up in class with my one-liners.
Worth every second.
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Actually, I got a goodly number of detentions in my younger days due to breaking people up in class with my one-liners.
Worth every second.
Too bad you needed two lines to say that.... :D
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How is the effort going to get the sign changed? I'm sure our resident contrarian kooks aren't just spending their every waking moment venting delusions here on the Internet. Rather they are acting in a meaningful way to correct this gross injustice done to the memory of Oswald. Right? Please keep us informed so that we can all have a good laugh. Video footage of poor person in Texas who is on the receiving end of that request would be fantastic. Good luck.
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11 years?
News to me.
Cite that.
That's how long I've been on this forum. Should I have said your entire life?
The Hidell card, O.H. Lee rooming house, and the @Tippit S&W are more than a little pointed and relevant.
No, that's a list of things, not a point.
Now answer to that.
Answer to what?
Go ahead, make my day..
Everything is a movie clip to Chapman.
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Actually, I got a goodly number of detentions in my younger days due to breaking people up in class with my one-liners.
Actually, that explains a lot. You never moved past your school boy "humor".
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How is the effort going to get the sign changed? I'm sure our resident contrarian kooks aren't just spending their every waking moment venting delusions here on the Internet. Rather they are acting in a meaningful way to correct this gross injustice done to the memory of Oswald. Right? Please keep us informed so that we can all have a good laugh. Video footage of poor person in Texas who is on the receiving end of that request would be fantastic. Good luck.
What do you mean "we", Kimosabe?
Have you figured out yet who owns the land that the sign is planted in, or who owns and controls the content of the sign, "Richard"? Or do you have any more ignorant statements that "we" can laugh at?
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That's how long I've been on this forum. Should I have said your entire life?
> Now that's childish. And sooooo creative
No, that's a list of things, not a point
> You forgot to call them irrelevant.
Answer to what?
> Your deflections: Are the S&W, Hidell card and OH Lee rooming house relevant or not
Everything is a movie clip to Chapman
> A picture video is worth a thousand unlimited words.
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> Your deflections: Are the S&W, Hidell card and OH Lee rooming house relevant or not
To what?
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To what?
JFK/@Tippit
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I don't know if they are relevant or not, since you have yet to reveal what your point is about them.
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I don't know if they are relevant or not, since you have yet to reveal what your point is about them.
My point is abundantly clear
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Again, how is the effort progressing? Please share with us any communications received so that we can fall on the ground laughing when the contrarian kooks are exposed to the real world. Like a worm under a rock. Don't limit your wisdom just to the Internet. Contrarians of the world unite in this important cause. Ozzie is depending on you!
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Again, how is the effort progressing? Please share with us any communications received so that we can fall on the ground laughing when the contrarian kooks are exposed to the real world. Like a worm under a rock. Don't limit your wisdom just to the Internet. Contrarians of the world unite in this important cause. Ozzie is depending on you!
"Like a worm under a rock."
I'm not surprised you're familiar with things that live under rocks.
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My point is abundantly clear
You always think your "points" are clear.
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You always think your "points" are clear.
Too pithy for your pay-grade, huh
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Too nonsensical.
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Too nonsensical.
Sure, to you.. no surprise there.
Oswald used aliases and I riffed on that.
Got it yet? Capiche?
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Too bad you can’t prove that “Oswald used aliases”.
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Too bad you can’t prove that “Oswald used aliases”.
So what. The aliases are out there.
I'll always take a knee to artistic licence.
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Dale Myers was commissioned to write the text for that.
Indeed, but not surprising if Myers wrote the text.
Myers’ propaganda has no business on something called a “historical marker”.
No. Not Dale Myers.
That was written by Ferris Rookstool.
Myers wrote the text for the marker located outside of Clarksville, TX in Red River County where Tippit grew up.
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I just read through this entire thread.
This thread is the perfect example of why I don't post here anymore; nothing except childish arguing.
No disrespect meant towards Duncan, but this used to be the best Kennedy assassination forum going (until some got hold of it).
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(until some got hold of it).
really? - did they post in this thread?
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I just read through this entire thread.
This thread is the perfect example of why I don't post here anymore; nothing except childish arguing.
No disrespect meant towards Duncan, but this used to be the best Kennedy assassination forum going (until some got hold of it).
John Iacoletti brings out the worst in all of us.
LOL
-- MWT ;)
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No. Not Dale Myers.
That was written by Ferris Rookstool.
Myers wrote the text for the marker located outside of Clarksville, TX in Red River County where Tippit grew up.
Thanks for the correction, Bill.
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No. Not Dale Myers.
That was written by Ferris Rookstool.
Myers wrote the text for the marker located outside of Clarksville, TX in Red River County where Tippit grew up.
That was written by Ferris Rookstool
> On his day off..
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I,m a firm CT but i can absolutely get on board that LHO was knee deep involved in some aspects of the plot, I million percent believe Tippit was as crooked as they come, his behaviour before and after the shooting of JFK points to a fella being unhinged and erratic, his job IMO was to silence Oswald.
You think Tippet's reported actions - driving up to Oswald and talking to him out of the right window and then getting out not looking at him - are those of someone sent to silence Oswald?
Based on the eyewitness accounts, it sure looks to me that Oswald jumped Tippet and that he (Tippet) was not ready. That, to me, isn't evidence of someone chasing Oswald down. That's someone surprised by Oswald.
How did he know where Oswald was? How did he know Oswald left the building shortly after the assassination and went to his rooming house? I'm really puzzled as to how conspiracy believers think Oswald was monitored? How did the conspirators know where he was at 12:30 when JFK was shot? If Oswald's not in the building, if he's with co-workers then he can't be framed. He has an alibi. So how would the framers know he could be framed?
I have an enormous difficulty understanding how conspiracy people think the conspirators can do all of these things they are alleged to have done. And kept it all quiet. It's just not possible.
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You think Tippet's reported actions - driving up to Oswald and talking to him out of the right window and then getting out not looking at him - are those of someone sent to silence Oswald?
Based on the eyewitness accounts, it sure looks to me that Oswald jumped Tippet and that he (Tippet) was not ready. That, to me, isn't evidence of someone chasing Oswald down. That's someone surprised by Oswald.
How did he know where Oswald was? How did he know Oswald left the building shortly after the assassination and went to his rooming house? I'm really puzzled as to how conspiracy believers think Oswald was monitored? How did the conspirators know where he was at 12:30 when JFK was shot? If Oswald's not in the building, if he's with co-workers then he can't be framed. He has an alibi. So how would the framers know he could be framed?
I have an enormous difficulty understanding how conspiracy people think the conspirators can do all of these things they are alleged to have done. And kept it all quiet. It's just not possible.
Until you call the dirty cop Tippit I'm not reading your post cheers.