JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: Benjamin Cole on August 26, 2026, 02:04:22 AM
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The EF-JFKA cannot seem to stay on topic...oddly enough, often led astray by its founder, John Simkin.
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What does the rising US national debt, 60-odd years after the JFKA, have to do with the JFKA? The Brit Simkin evidently believes that Americans need an exposition on that topic, within the EF-JFKA.
The title of the thread in which the above appeared, started by Simkin, is Donald Trump, the Deep State and the JFK Assassination.
Of course, the topic is an invitation to political posturing and far-fetched connections between Trump and the "Deep State," and the JFKA, of which Trump is, or is not, a member, depending on the mood affiliation de jure at the EF-JFKA.
(BTW, I am not a Trump fan. But one can read pro- and anti-Trump slop all over the web. Why even more of it inside the EF-JFKA? Aside from that, Trump opened up the JFK Records. A Deep State puppet did that?)
In truth, the EF-JFKA has improved from the political toilet it became under "moderator" William Neidernut (who is now mysteriously absent from the EF-JFKA). "The Jews perped 9.11 and the JFKA" threads have vanished.
But you still get contributions like this, in the Simkin thread:
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Full disclosure: I have been banned for life for the EF-JFKA. In part, as I have criticized the EF-JFKA and its moderators in this forum.
See the images above for what I did not do.
So it goes. I will keep on criticizing.
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Interestingly, former Watergate attorney Douglas Caddy (who helped Roger Stone write an "LBJ-did-it" book several years ago) introduced recently-returned-from-Moscow Lyndon LaRouche organization officer Harley Schlanger to Stone in early 2016 at Schlanger's request, and received an email from Stone afterwards thanking him for having done so and saying that he and Schlanger had "hit it off," that they were "fighting the Globalists" together, and that he (Stone) had a "back channel to Trump."
Caddy says Schlanger had probably attended, along with some other LaRouche officers -- as alleged in the Steele Dossier -- the infamous RT Dinner in Moscow on 10 December 2015.
Rhetorical question: Did Putin set Harley up with "Guccifer 2.0", "DNCLeaks," and/or Julian Assange?
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Douglas Caddy had the most fleeting connection to Watergate.
Caddy claims that when he asked Howard Hunt why President John F. Kennedy was assassinated, Hunt told him it was because Kennedy was about to disclose 'the Alien Presence' to the Soviet Union.
You can see what Caddy posts now.
There are various narratives of Trump-Russiagate out there, but there are not connected the JFKA, and not a topic for this thread.
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Douglas Caddy had the most fleeting connection to Watergate.
Caddy claims that when he asked Howard Hunt why President John F. Kennedy was assassinated, Hunt told him it was because Kennedy was about to disclose 'the Alien Presence' to the Soviet Union.
You can see what Caddy posts now.
There are various narratives of Trump-Russiagate out there, but there are not connected the JFKA, and not a topic for this thread.
Do you not believe that, at Schlanger's request, he introduced Schlanger to Stone in early 2016, shortly after Schlanger had returned from Moscow, and that Stone sent him an email afterwards thanking him for having done so and mentioning that he and Schlanger had "hit it off," that they were "fighting the Globalists" together, and that he (Stone) had "a back channel to Trump"?
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I am blissfully unaware of the internecine contortions, alliances and ersatz public postures of the 2016-era Trumpians.
Not really a topic to explore here.
Do you have some views on how the EF-JFKA is covering the JFKA?
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I am blissfully unaware of the internecine contortions, alliances and ersatz public postures of the 2016-era Trumpians.
Not really a topic to explore here.
Do you have some views on how the EF-JFKA is covering the JFKA?
Don't you want to know about the probable 2016 collusion between The Traitorous Orange I could crush a Grape ooooh yummy yummy's campaign and Vladimir Putin via the Traitorous Orange I could crush a Grape ooooh yummy yummy's former campaign manager, Roger Stone, and pro-Russia Harley Schlanger?
https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/26617-my-2017-letter-to-special-counsel-robert-mueller-about-roger-stone/
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Not really. It is off topic.
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The Education Forum is employing the trick of using the better writers, authors, and researchers to impose a sort of literary snobbery which is then used to censor some of the better evidence analysts and maintain the clique...This creates a sort of infallibility for researchers like Jim DiEugenio who know exactly what they are doing over there while pretending to be good guy researchers...
If you want to test how true it is simply go to the forum and post a post asking for a review of how they handled the Prayer Man theory...The way it was handled was every time someone tried to make progress on the evidence that Prayer Man was Sarah Stanton James Gordon would swoop in and change the subject and shut the thread down before any evidence could be argued...Then Sandy Larsen would take over with his Prayer Man is Oswald propaganda...They did that under the premise that the thread always caused a problem without honestly admitting that they were the problem...Prayer Man is best argued when those who can refute it are censored and banned with the people who banned them now making up the rules...Simkin then lies and says he trusts his moderators...
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TDS seems to be a chronic condition with no known cure and which only worsens over time.
Perhaps a visit to Lourdes is the only hope of recovery.
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TDS seems to be a chronic condition with no known cure and which only worsens over time.
You're right, Herr Corbett.
Traitorous Disinformation Xxxx (TDS) is a fatal disease.
It's too bad you've drunk so much orange Kool-Aid that's heavily laced with it and your regular Russian vodka.
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You're right, Herr Corbett.
Traitorous Disinformation Xxxx (TDS) is a fatal disease.
It's too bad you've drunk so much orange Kool-Aid that's heavily laced with it and your regular Russian vodka.
I would never screw up good vodka by mixing it with Kool-Aid. I mix my vodka with dry vermouth. Shaken, not stirred.
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I would never screw up good vodka by mixing it with Kool-Aid. I mix my vodka with dry vermouth. Shaken, not stirred.
"Russia vodka good vodka!"
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"Russia vodka good vodka!"
Smirnoff is my chosen brand of vodka and it's made in the good old USA. I have nothing against Russian vodka. I just like Smirnoff.
Smirnoff is made in a number of countries but to the best of my knowledge, the vodka I buy is American made.
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Smirnoff is my chosen brand of vodka and it's made in the good old USA. I have nothing against Russian vodka. I just like Smirnoff.
Smirnoff is made in a number of countries but to the best of my knowledge, the vodka I buy is American made.
Do you get sloshed on it every time you're listening to far-right Libertarian propaganda and thereby getting even more brainwashed?
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I never understood the "PM is LHO" crowd. The photograph is too blurry to establish anything, but looks like a chubby woman.
I don't trust photographic enhancements, as they can be manipulated.
Moreover, not one person ever said said they saw LHO, when shots rang out. He was invisible at the time. No one on the front steps saw LHO.
My suspicion is LHO was the visible TSBD6 sniper, and was responsible for three gunshots that day, which were heard deep into the bowels of the TSBD.
That is not the same as saying LHO was the only shooter.
IMHO, the CT crowd went off-course when they decided to totally exonerate LHO, and fabricate extraordinarily complicated Deep State CTs.
The LNT crowd lost traction when they tried rigidly to pin everything on LHO alone.
Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.
BRW, Paul Cummings is now a moderator at EF-JFKA. He contends the Jew-owned Clean Towel Service was central to the JFKA. Their truck was nearby during the JFKA.
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I never understood the "PM is LHO" crowd. The photograph is too blurry to establish anything, but looks like a chubby woman.
I don't trust photographic enhancements, as they can be manipulated.
Moreover, not one person ever said said they saw LHO, when shots rang out. He was invisible at the time. No one on the front steps saw LHO.
My suspicion is LHO was the visible TSBD6 sniper, and was responsible for three gunshots that day, which were heard deep into the bowels of the TSBD.
That is not the same as saying LHO was the only shooter.
He's just the only shooter there is credible evidence of.
IMHO, the CT crowd went off-course when they decided to totally exonerate LHO, and fabricate extraordinarily complicated Deep State CTs.
The LNT crowd lost traction when they tried rigidly to pin everything on LHO alone.
Gee, why would we do that. Just because all the evidence points to LHO alone.
Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.
BRW, Paul Cummings is now a moderator at EF-JFKA. He contends the Jew-owned Clean Towel Service was central to the JFKA. Their truck was nearby during the JFKA.
That's no more nor less goofy than all the other theories CTs have floated over the last six decades.
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The WC LNT, fabricated to meet LBJ's directive to avoid any finding that might trigger a nuke war, never even suffered a legal test in a trial, let alone met some sort of scientific standard of proof.
The WC was the first official investigation into the JFKA, 1964.
The second official investigation, the HSCA, 1979, found that a JFKAC was likely.
The LNT fails to explain what Sam Holland saw (smoke on the GK), why there was gunsmoke in the GK area in the immediate aftermath of the JFKA, why so many witnesses heard gunshots from the GK, or why there was a man flashing a fake Secret Service credential in the GK, also in the immediate aftermath of the JFKA.
That above is all fact.
My layman's take on the Z-film is that Gov JBC is shot at Z-295 and JFK at Z-313. That sequence lines up with many witnesses who said they heard a "bang....bang-bang" cadence of audible gunshots.
Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)
The LNT version requires that Gov. JBC makes a 180-degree turn in his seat to check on JFK after being shot through his chest, and that JBC holds onto his Stetson hat, after being shot through the wrist.
The CT's and LNT's have their adherents. As to which camp has the most nuts...well, that's a toss-up.
I have reasonable doubts about the LNT. And many CT's.
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The WC LNT, fabricated to meet LBJ's directive to avoid any finding that might trigger a nuke war, never even suffered a legal test in a trial, let alone met some sort of scientific standard of proof.
There was no such directive made.
The WC was the first official investigation into the JFKA, 1964.
The second official investigation, the HSCA, 1979, found that a JFKAC was likely.
The second investigation was FUBAR.
The LNT fails to explain what Sam Holland saw (smoke on the GK), why there was gunsmoke in the GK area in the immediate aftermath of the JFKA, why so many witnesses heard gunshots from the GK, or why there was a man flashing a fake Secret Service credential in the GK, also in the immediate aftermath of the JFKA.
The LNs don't need to explain what Sam Holland saw. If CTs want to claim it was gun smoke, the burden is on them to provide the evidence to support that position. If is extremely unlikely that what Holland saw was gun smoke given that modern ammo produces very little smoke which dissipates almost immediately. Nobody saw a shooter on the GK on either side of the fence. All the wounds to JFK and JBC were caused by shots fired from behind them.
That above is all fact.
My layman's take on the Z-film is that Gov JBC is shot at Z-295 and JFK at Z-313. That sequence lines up with many witnesses who said they heard a "bang....bang-bang" cadence of audible gunshots.
Your take is stupid. 'nuff said.
Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)
The LNT version requires that Gov. JBC makes a 180-degree turn in his seat to check on JFK after being shot through his chest, and that JBC holds onto his Stetson hat, after being shot through the wrist.
I doubt he turned 180 degrees to check on JFK. He turned in reaction to a serious gunshot wound through his chest. He might have happened to see JFK slump as he did that.
The CT's and LNT's have their adherents. As to which camp has the most nuts...well, that's a toss-up.
I have reasonable doubts about the LNT. And many CT's.
Nobody cares about your doubts which aren't the least bit reasonable.
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I never understood the "PM is LHO" crowd. The photograph is too blurry to establish anything, but looks like a chubby woman.
I don't trust photographic enhancements, as they can be manipulated.
Not true...Altgens 6 is clear enough to establish that Sarah Stanton is not to Frazier's left...The only two people not seen in Altgens 6 are Prayer Man and Frazier...That makes Prayer Man Stanton alone...The sharpest Wiegman frame, that was enhanced by Chris Davidson, shows Sarah Stanton's face on Prayer Man...The 6th Floor Museum 1st generation copy of Darnell shows Stanton's dress neckline on Prayer Man...The Owens film shows that same dress neckline on Stanton as well as Prayer Man's elbow-length sleeve...If Hughes were digitally enhanced we would see Stanton up behind Lovelady in the Prayer Man spot...
Moreover, not one person ever said said they saw LHO, when shots rang out. He was invisible at the time. No one on the front steps saw LHO.
In 2018 Debra Conway called Frazier for me and ran my Prayer Man evidence by him...Debra e-mailed me after that call and told me Frazier agreed Prayer Man was Stanton...When I spoke to Frazier directly on the phone he told me "Tell those people if Oswald was out there on the front steps I would have said something" and he was angry when he said it...Frazier told me he would do a video interview with me when his book came out...When I called him back after his book came out he did not respond...There's lots of back-stabbers out there in the community and I suspect somebody poisoned the well for me with Frazier...Simpich betrayed Gilbride and myself when we tried to video interview Burroughs...
My suspicion is LHO was the visible TSBD6 sniper, and was responsible for three gunshots that day, which were heard deep into the bowels of the TSBD.
That is not the same as saying LHO was the only shooter.
Oswald (Harvey) was eating his lunch in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination, as all the witnesses told and all the evidence showed...Lee in his white T-shirt was probably up on the 6th Floor helping frame Harvey...Lee was possibly photographed in one of the 6th Floor windows by Dillard...Lee was seen strolling through the 2nd Floor Offices by Mrs Reid...
IMHO, the CT crowd went off-course when they decided to totally exonerate LHO, and fabricate extraordinarily complicated Deep State CTs.
The reason they did that was because Harvey was totally innocent and was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room...That was stricken from the record in Oswald's interrogations and was finally admitted by Hosty to Nigel Turner in the 1990's...
The LNT crowd lost traction when they tried rigidly to pin everything on LHO alone.
Only possible if you ignore 6 decades worth of incriminating evidence of conspiracy...The real problem is nuts like Greg Parker who pretend to be conspiracy researchers and then come in and permanently mangle the evidence...Bart Kamp too (at Jim D's full approval)...
BRW, Paul Cummings is now a moderator at EF-JFKA. He contends the Jew-owned Clean Towel Service was central to the JFKA. Their truck was nearby during the JFKA.
Michael Collins Piper has over 500 pages of densely-referenced material...Though I disagree with his suggestion that the assassination originated from Israel...
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Well, we are on different pages on the JFKA, but that is what a forum is for.
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Well, we are on different pages on the JFKA, but that is what a forum is for.
Except for The Education Forum that just censors and bans at a whim when they are forced to answer evidence they don't want to admit...
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Except for The Education Forum that just censors and bans at a whim when they are forced to answer evidence they don't want to admit...
Kinda hard to take anything you say seriously now that you have admitted you believe that Lee Oswald (and his mother?) had a secret doppelaganger.
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Nay-saying does not equal a valid counter to the evidence I am discussing...
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Brain………. I am going to do you a huge solid. I think I have found a wife for you. Her name is Barbara Hartwell, and she has a website, s’appelle barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com Wander on over there, tell her Todd’s friend Mark sent you. She will complete you, as Tom Cruise said. You’re welcome.
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Armstrong is one of the best in the business...He deserves better and his evidence stands up...
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Armstrong is one of the best in the business...He deserves better and his evidence stands up...
You really have to be kidding. His interpretations of the evidence make no sense and some of them are so silly as to almost be a joke. Not sure why you don't realize this...
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You are offering yourself and your shallow nay-saying as not only on parr with Armstrong but better...
I think any review or your material vs Armstrong's sleuthing shows that for what it is...
Just Armstrong's Westbrook material is near genius work and cracks the case...
Do you believe Westbrook when he says he walked from the Police Station to the Depository?
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Armstrong is one of the best in the business...He deserves better and his evidence stands up...
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You are offering yourself and your shallow nay-saying as not only on parr with Armstrong but better...
I think any review or your material vs Armstrong's sleuthing shows that for what it is...
Just Armstrong's Westbrook material is near genius work and cracks the case...
Do you believe Westbrook when he says he walked from the Police Station to the Depository?
The case was "cracked" 12 hours after Oswald killed JFK. That's when the DPD formally charged him with JFK's murder. They had already charged him with killing Tippit a few hours earlier.
Everything that has been learned since and all the advances in the forensic sciences has only served to make that case stronger. There is no rational explanation of the JFKA that doesn't have Oswald as the man who fired the shots at JFK and who later killed Tippit.
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Do you believe Westbrook when he says there were no cars at the Police Station so he walked from the Police Station to the Depository?...
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Crickets...