JFK Assassination Forum
JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Tom Graves on June 14, 2026, 04:21:10 AM
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AFAIK, comrades Jimmy DiEugenio, Oliver Stone, Jefferson Morley, Peter Dale Scott, Bill Simpich, and Gary "Rudeness" Aguilar, et al. ad nauseum, believe the evil, evil, evil Military Industrial Intelligence-Community Complex killed JFK.
What about you?
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Yes, and Vincent Salandria and James W. Douglass.
A lot of smart guys are in the aforementioned, but...the ideology writes the agenda, and the agenda writes the narrative.
Another smart guy, and former CIA director with decades of experience in international affairs, James Woolsey, suspects the KGB.
Some suspect the Mafia or LBJ.
I suspect, but concede it is only a reasonable suspicion, that G2'ers were involved, although possibly just Alpha-66'ers.
A very small plot, involving LHO and two others.
Strange JFKA Fact: Almost no one believes LHO was part of a small, informal, ad hoc JFKA, consisting of lower level G2'ers or Cuban exiles.
LHO is usually posited to have been totally innocent, and framed in plot involving dozens and dozens up to the highest levels somewhere...or to have acted alone.
Then, we have crackpots positing Mossad...oh never mind.
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Yes, and Vincent Salandria and James W. Douglass.
A lot of smart guys are in the aforementioned, but...the ideology writes the agenda, and the agenda writes the narrative.
Another smart guy, and former CIA director with decades of experience in international affairs, James Woolsey, suspects the KGB.
Some suspect the Mafia or LBJ.
I suspect, but concede it is only a reasonable suspicion, that G2'ers were involved, although possibly just Alpha-66'ers.
A very small plot, involving LHO and two others.
Strange JFKA Fact: Almost no one believes LHO was part of a small, informal, ad hoc JFKA, consisting of lower level G2'ers or Cuban exiles.
LHO is usually posited to have been totally innocent, and framed in plot involving dozens and dozens up to the highest levels somewhere...or to have acted alone.
Then, we have crackpots positing Mossad...oh never mind.
I asked a simple question -- yes or no.
I didn't ask you for your brilliant observations and/or theories.
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No
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Yes. By the old boys IC-joint venture of all country's all over the world that still exists.
A former high-ranking colleague of Angleton(...) quote:
"Jim (angleton) believed that the real exercise of power in and between countries
occurs through networks of leaders. This was the importance of the
liaison unit. It operated outside of the normal channels, which really
irritated people like the State Department at times. A lot of it went
back to relationships formed during and just after World War II. Jim
cultivated these people, whether they were in or out of government."
Close quote
For instance: IMO the Covid affaire was a US-China IC joint venture, executed by the the MIC of the US and the MIC of China, with Europe as junior partner. 22.11. 63 was a SU-US joint venture with several junior partners: Mafia, Israel ...
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Yes. By the old boys IC-joint venture of all country's all over the world that still exists.
A former high-ranking colleague of Angleton(...) quote:
"Jim (angleton) believed that the real exercise of power in and between countries
occurs through networks of leaders. This was the importance of the
liaison unit. It operated outside of the normal channels, which really
irritated people like the State Department at times. A lot of it went
back to relationships formed during and just after World War II. Jim
cultivated these people, whether they were in or out of government."
Close quote
For instance: IMO the Covid affaire was a US-China IC joint venture, executed by the the MIC of the US and the MIC of China, with Europe as junior partner. 22.11. 63 was a SU-US joint venture with several junior partners: Mafia, Israel ...
Father-figure-requiring James Angleton was duped by a probable KGB mole in the CIA by the name of Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up; he was Deputy Chief of the Office of Security's mole-hunting Security Research Staff and Chief of ITS Research Branch) to such an extent that he may have manipulated Angleton into sending Oswald to Moscow in October 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a (unbeknownst to Angleton and Oswald) planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA -- the Soviet Russia Division.
Which mole hunt lasted nine years, protected Solie from being uncovered, destroyed the Soviet Russia Division, and drove Angleton nuts.
Ironically, Angleton told true defector KGB Major Anatoly Golitsyn and CIA officers David E. Murphy and Raymond Rocca on 29 June 1964 that Solie's office was the only one in the CIA he wasn't afraid was penetrated by the KGB.
Among other things, in October 1968 Solie "cleared" false-defector-in-place in Geneva in June 1962 / false (or perhaps rogue) physical defector to the U.S. in February 1964, Yuri Nosenko, via a bogus polygraph exam and a specious report.
A short time later, Nosenko was generously reimbursed for his troubles, naturalized as a U.S. citizen, and got a good-paying gig at the CIA teaching "counterintelligence" to its and the FBI's new recruits.