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The JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Discussion & Debate => Topic started by: Fred Litwin on June 13, 2026, 01:43:59 PM
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The Making of a Conspiracist
This is a story I did not want to write. One of my friends and collaborator over the years has now turned into a full-fledged conspiracist -- he has
become a 9/11 truther, a believer that the Mossad killed Kennedy and that the Jews have contributed nothing to humanity. It's quite a sad
story -- to see this personally.
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/the-making-of-a-conspiracist (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/the-making-of-a-conspiracist)
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I will never understand why some people have a predisposition to blame the Jewish people for all the ills of the planet. It is every bit as vile as any other form of bigotry yet there are places where this attitude is actually tolerated and even condoned.
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I will never understand why some people have a predisposition to blame the Jewish people for all the ills of the planet. It is every bit as vile as any other form of bigotry yet there are places where this attitude is actually tolerated and even condoned.
Sounds like the current Democrat Party.
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Sounds like the current Democrat Party.
Certainly some elements of it as well as elements of academia. They will tolerate bigotry against the Jewish people that they would vigorously condemn if it was aimed at black or Hispanic people.
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The Making of a Conspiracist
This is a story I did not want to write. One of my friends and collaborator over the years has now turned into a full-fledged conspiracist -- he has
become a 9/11 truther, a believer that the Mossad killed Kennedy and that the Jews have contributed nothing to humanity. It's quite a sad
story -- to see this personally.
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/the-making-of-a-conspiracist (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/the-making-of-a-conspiracist)
I find it mind boggling that anyone would fall for the 9/11 Truther craziness. They should read some of Dr. David Mantik's research on the DNA evidence that proves that DNA from most of the hijackers was found at the WTC site, at the Pentagon crash site, and at the crash site in PA, proving that planes did in fact hit the Pentagon and Shanksville, PA. (9/11 Truthers don't deny that planes hit the WTC towers--yeah, since there are films showing the planes slamming into the towers).
Sadly, a number of left-wing WC skeptics have embraced the absurd theory that the Mossad played a role in JFK's death.
It sounds like Mansur has bought into Jihadism. Many Jihadists peddle 9/11 Trutherism and claim that Israel purposely attacked the USS Liberty in 1967.
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Have you asked him?
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I will never understand why some people have a predisposition to blame the Jewish people for all the ills of the planet. It is every bit as vile as any other form of bigotry yet there are places where this attitude is actually tolerated and even condoned.
They have not exactly helped their case in recent years.
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The Making of a Conspiracist
This is a story I did not want to write. One of my friends and collaborator over the years has now turned into a full-fledged conspiracist -- he has
become a 9/11 truther, a believer that the Mossad killed Kennedy and that the Jews have contributed nothing to humanity. It's quite a sad
story -- to see this personally.
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/the-making-of-a-conspiracist (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/the-making-of-a-conspiracist)
If I could make just one suggestion, I would recommend that you distinguish between 9/11 conspiracy theorists, who constitute a tiny fringe and whose views have been rejected by every government study and investigation, and those who posit a conspiracy in the JFK assassination, who constitute a majority of Americans and Europeans and who have included U.S. presidents and vice presidents, members of Congress, members of the military and the intelligence community, numerous experts in relevant fields, and the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
I would change the title of the thread to "The Making of a 9/11 Conspiracist."
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[...] They should read some of Dr. David Mantik's research on the DNA evidence that proves that DNA from most of the hijackers was found at the WTC site, at the Pentagon crash site, and at the crash site in PA, proving that planes did in fact hit the Pentagon and Shanksville, PA. [...]
I asked you recently in another thread where to find that research, but you refused to answer. Apparently, it's reserved for private email chains.
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The government’s own official explanation of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory.
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I asked you recently in another thread where to find that research, but you refused to answer. Apparently, it's reserved for private email chains.
Mantik believes in a limo stop and Z-film alteration which have been thoroughly debunked. I give him credit for being equivocal on the acoustics conclusions perhaps realizing that they depend upon being synched with the Z-film.
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Mantik believes in a limo stop and Z-film alteration which have been thoroughly debunked. I give him credit for being equivocal on the acoustics conclusions perhaps realizing that they depend upon being synched with the Z-film.
I was only curious about the 9/11 related DNA research that MTG keeps vaguely alluding to.
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At the risk of beating my conspiracy-prone mindset drum ($19.95 in the toy section at Walmart), I would bet that if one knew Mansur intimately the seeds were there before he went bonkers. I've mentioned David Ray Griffin, a truly renowned philosopher and theologian who went completely off the deep-end and became one of the leading 9/11 Truther spokesmen. I was astonished ... and yet, one of the reasons I had always enjoyed reading him is that he was very open to some of the psychical research in which I am interested. In other words, just a bit "out there" for someone with his academic standing. I don't think it takes a whole lot of fertilizer for the conspiracy-prone mindset to blossom into a full-tilt beanstalk (what?). This is particularly true when there are religious underpinnings. How many people become religious zealots and at least start pretending to believe things they would have previously thought were laughable?
I also love the tactic of Certain Conspiracy Wackos to distance themselves from other comspiracy wackos. This is what Jim Di Eugenio used to do and why he became apoplectic whenever I pointed out the close parallels between the UFO community and the JFKA community. "WHAT???" screeched Jimbo in righteous indignation. "Those UFO nuts are NUTS. My goofy kitchen sink of beliefs is SERIOUS RESEARCH!!!" Uh-huh. Certain Conspiracy Wackos right here on this thread, who likewise hold and promote other wacky beliefs ("You could look it up," as Casey Stengel used to say), insist they are somehow above the fray and able to look down with disdain on the those Wacky 9/11 Truthers. And on it goes.
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I was only curious about the 9/11 related DNA research that MTG keeps vaguely alluding to.
I meant to reply to the MTG post. Sorry.
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I was only curious about the 9/11 related DNA research that MTG keeps vaguely alluding to.
I did my standard unserious troll Google search and came up completely empty. Even AI didn't know what I was talking about. But because MTG is a serious researcher and deals only in facts, I feel sure he will invent something to satisy your request.
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Having now read all three of Fred's pieces, that is indeed an amazing 180-degree transformation. I still have to believe it is a combination of the seeds having been there long before the transformation and of religious influences of which we may not be fully aware. There is no way the events in Gaza triggered this sort of wholesale about-face.
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I find it mind boggling that anyone would fall for the 9/11 Truther craziness. They should read some of Dr. David Mantik's research on the DNA evidence that proves that DNA from most of the hijackers was found at the WTC site, at the Pentagon crash site, and at the crash site in PA, proving that planes did in fact hit the Pentagon and Shanksville, PA. (9/11 Truthers don't deny that planes hit the WTC towers--yeah, since there are films showing the planes slamming into the towers).
Sadly, a number of left-wing WC skeptics have embraced the absurd theory that the Mossad played a role in JFK's death.
It sounds like Mansur has bought into Jihadism. Many Jihadists peddle 9/11 Trutherism and claim that Israel purposely attacked the USS Liberty in 1967.
Tell the Mantik bit to loonies at the Education Forum like W Niederhut, who appears to be single handedly destroying the place with his laughable agenda.
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My condolences.
I had a reporter friend from the 1980-90s (we worked at the same small business newspaper, way back when) tell me about the Mossad-JFKA connection, and then talk about Epstein as a dark link to Israel to global cabals and so on. I changed the topic before 9/11 could could up.
When people like Tucker Carlson tirelessly beat the Israel Derangement Syndrome drum....
One million, may even two million are dead in Ukraine. The IRGC slaughters 40,000 in a few days. Haiti, pop. 8 million is a gang-ruled anarchy. One billion women live under Muslim law. I could go on.
But Israel and the US are the only bad guys. Yale astronomy course descriptions being up the "genocidal" Israelis.
"Gays4Hamas" and so on.
The Education Forum hosted a lot of this sort of excrement.