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Online Michael T. Griffith

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Re: The Making of a Conspiracist
« Reply #7 on: Today at 04:10:27 PM »
The Making of a Conspiracist

This is a story I did not want to write. One of my friends and collaborator over the years has now turned into a full-fledged conspiracist -- he has
become a 9/11 truther, a believer that the Mossad killed Kennedy and that the Jews have contributed nothing to humanity. It's quite a sad
story -- to see this personally.

https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/the-making-of-a-conspiracist

If I could make just one suggestion, I would recommend that you distinguish between 9/11 conspiracy theorists, who constitute a tiny fringe and whose views have been rejected by every government study and investigation, and those who posit a conspiracy in the JFK assassination, who constitute a majority of Americans and Europeans and who have included U.S. presidents and vice presidents, members of Congress, members of the military and the intelligence community, numerous experts in relevant fields, and the House Select Committee on Assassinations.

I would change the title of the thread to "The Making of a 9/11 Conspiracist."

Online Mark Ulrik

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Re: The Making of a Conspiracist
« Reply #8 on: Today at 04:28:03 PM »
[...] They should read some of Dr. David Mantik's research on the DNA evidence that proves that DNA from most of the hijackers was found at the WTC site, at the Pentagon crash site, and at the crash site in PA, proving that planes did in fact hit the Pentagon and Shanksville, PA. [...]

I asked you recently in another thread where to find that research, but you refused to answer. Apparently, it's reserved for private email chains.

Online Kevin Balch

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Re: The Making of a Conspiracist
« Reply #9 on: Today at 05:31:52 PM »
The government’s own official explanation of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory.

Online Kevin Balch

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« Reply #10 on: Today at 05:37:21 PM »
I asked you recently in another thread where to find that research, but you refused to answer. Apparently, it's reserved for private email chains.

Mantik believes in a limo stop and Z-film alteration which have been thoroughly debunked. I give him credit for being equivocal on the acoustics conclusions perhaps realizing that they depend upon being synched with the Z-film.

Online Mark Ulrik

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Re: The Making of a Conspiracist
« Reply #11 on: Today at 06:09:33 PM »
Mantik believes in a limo stop and Z-film alteration which have been thoroughly debunked. I give him credit for being equivocal on the acoustics conclusions perhaps realizing that they depend upon being synched with the Z-film.

I was only curious about the 9/11 related DNA research that MTG keeps vaguely alluding to.

Offline Lance Payette

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« Reply #12 on: Today at 06:09:57 PM »
At the risk of beating my conspiracy-prone mindset drum ($19.95 in the toy section at Walmart), I would bet that if one knew Mansur intimately the seeds were there before he went bonkers. I've mentioned David Ray Griffin, a truly renowned philosopher and theologian who went completely off the deep-end and became one of the leading 9/11 Truther spokesmen. I was astonished ... and yet, one of the reasons I had always enjoyed reading him is that he was very open to some of the psychical research in which I am interested. In other words, just a bit "out there" for someone with his academic standing. I don't think it takes a whole lot of fertilizer for the conspiracy-prone mindset to blossom into a full-tilt beanstalk (what?). This is particularly true when there are religious underpinnings. How many people become religious zealots and at least start pretending to believe things they would have previously thought were laughable?

I also love the tactic of Certain Conspiracy Wackos to distance themselves from other comspiracy wackos. This is what Jim Di Eugenio used to do and why he became apoplectic whenever I pointed out the close parallels between the UFO community and the JFKA community. "WHAT???" screeched Jimbo in righteous indignation. "Those UFO nuts are NUTS. My goofy kitchen sink of beliefs is SERIOUS RESEARCH!!!" Uh-huh. Certain Conspiracy Wackos right here on this thread, who likewise hold and promote other wacky beliefs ("You could look it up," as Casey Stengel used to say), insist they are somehow above the fray and able to look down with disdain on the those Wacky 9/11 Truthers. And on it goes.

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Re: The Making of a Conspiracist
« Reply #13 on: Today at 06:12:55 PM »
I was only curious about the 9/11 related DNA research that MTG keeps vaguely alluding to.

I meant to reply to the MTG post. Sorry.