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Title: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
Post by: Fred Litwin on March 22, 2026, 02:11:16 PM
Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK" [/b]

A review of Executive Action from the New York Times, and a critique of the film from another conspiracy theorist.

Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"

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New York Times, November 25, 1973

Money Quotes:

However, even to people who are prepared to accept some sort of conspiracy, including myself, this manner of fiction simply isn't good enough. In spite of the rather pious, unexciting, low-keyed professionalism with which "Executive Action" has been put together, it is fiction of a gross and shabby order. Because it cannot say that this is true, the only point of the film is to raise the question of possibility. Having done that, which is does very quickly, it reduces one of the most turbulent events in American history to the dimensions of routine melodrama. This sort of thing seems very sad, if not reckless.
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He [Richard Popkin] points out, correctly, I believe, that the Watergate revelations may have made many Americans receptive to the idea that conspiracies can and do exist at high levels of power and influence in the United States. But that is hardly justification for the bogus history offered by "Executive Action," the heavily-footnoted novel as well as the over-simplified film.

JFK assassination researcher Fred Newcomb wrote a critique of the film:

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Money Quotes:

Any plot that hinges, as this one did, on two riflemen gaining access to two buildings, minutes before the motorcade arrives, is a plot that depends for its success upon blind luck. What this plot lacks in sophistication it makes up for in cheap spy thriller dialogue.

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At another point, the plotters fear that JFK would lead a revolution to gain rights for blacks and cite this as a reason for his removal. One was left to wonder how these same plotters viewed Johnson's subsequent assistance to the cause of civil rights. Would they now start plotting to kill Johnson?
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The story implies that Oswald was set-up as a scapegoat to take the blame for an assassin firing from his place of employment. Police, apparently, would rush into the building after the shooting to arrest Oswald, while the real assassin slipped away. So far so good. However, in this film there we see a second rifleman (the Records Building) across the way, firing from a building that apparently contained no scapegoat. What if Dallas police had surrounded the second building? Was there a second scapegoat? Was there a third scapegoat on the grassy knoll? The script compounds these problems by missing the point. Or did they conceive a plot involving three Lee Harvey Oswalds hanging around Dealey Plaza that day?
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The fictional assassination team, for some unexplained reason, was training to accomplish their feat in six or seven seconds. Why not 30 seconds? Is this because an amateur film of the actual assassination taken by Abraham Zapruder showed a six second assassination Had the fictional assassins already seen the Zapruder film?
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Alas, the movie ended in a pyroxism of paranoia in attempting to show that witnesses to the event have been systematically eliminated (further assassinations) by this same plot. The number of people were were witnesses to the death of JFK, Oswald and Officer Tippit, or who were associated with the investigation of these deaths, numbered in the thousands. Why is is strange that 18 have died "six by gunfire, three in motor accidents, two by suicide, one from a cut throat, one from a karate chop to the neck, three from heart attacks and two from natural causes?" Three from heart attacks and two from natural causes? Since when are heart attacks classified as unnatural deaths? Why not list Lyndon Johnson, Robert Ryan and several others who have passed away in the last ten years as long as you are mentioning natural causes?
The last quote was referring to this excerpt from the book:

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The London Sunday Times later took back that estimate of the odds in a letter to the HSCA:

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Here is Richard Popkin's introduction to Executive Action:

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The Onassis story is a hoot (on page 23 of the Popkin excerpt). What happened to his private safe? The opening of his safe might make for a very good Geraldo Rivera show.
Title: Re: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
Post by: Michael Capasse on March 22, 2026, 02:34:07 PM
Opinions of a fictional movie.
So what?

btw BS: the previous parade route was published on the 22nd.

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Title: Re: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
Post by: Mitch Todd on March 22, 2026, 04:12:59 PM
Opinions of a fictional movie.
So what?

btw BS: the previous parade route was published on the 22nd.

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By the time that tiny map had been published, the Times Herald and Morning News had already published text descriptions of the motorcade route including the Main-Houston-Elm-Stemmons jog. I keep pointing out that the Elm/Main/Commerce-Stemmons interchange is designed specifically to prevent westbound traffic on Main from entering the northbound entry ramp to Stemmons. If you wanted to get to Stemmons from downtown, you had to do it from Elm.
Title: Re: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
Post by: Michael Capasse on March 22, 2026, 04:19:39 PM
By the time that tiny map had been published, the Times Herald and Morning News had already published text descriptions of the motorcade route including the Main-Houston-Elm-Stemmons jog. I keep pointing out that the Elm/Main/Commerce-Stemmons interchange is designed specifically to prevent westbound traffic on Main from entering the northbound entry ramp to Stemmons. If you wanted to get to Stemmons from downtown, you had to do it from Elm.

It is the previous map printed on the 22nd
Title: Re: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
Post by: John Corbett on March 22, 2026, 04:42:32 PM
Both Executive Action and Oliver Stone's JFK were BS revisionist works of history, but of the two, Executive Action was a much better movie.
Title: Re: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
Post by: John Corbett on March 22, 2026, 04:51:01 PM
The newspaper maps of the parade route through downtown Dallas were very low resolution which lacked a certain level of detail. The fact is the motorcade was never intended to follow Main St. to the Stemmons Freeway because that was impractical. There was a traffic barrier in place to prevent everyday traffic from turning onto the Stemmons Freeway from Main St. For the motorcade to make that turn, it would have to driver beyond the barrier and then do a U-turn to get on the freeway ramp. That would have been a neat trick for a stretch limo. Even more difficult for the press bus that followed. What reason would the planners have to require such a move when it was a simple matter go one block north on Houston and then turn left onto Elm St. The claim that the motorcade route was changed at the last minute is a red herring.
Title: Re: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
Post by: Michael Capasse on March 22, 2026, 05:07:58 PM
The newspaper maps of the parade route through downtown Dallas were very low resolution which lacked a certain level of detail. The fact is the motorcade was never intended to follow Main St. to the Stemmons Freeway because that was impractical. There was a traffic barrier in place to prevent everyday traffic from turning onto the Stemmons Freeway from Main St. For the motorcade to make that turn, it would have to driver beyond the barrier and then do a U-turn to get on the freeway ramp. That would have been a neat trick for a stretch limo. Even more difficult for the press bus that followed. What reason would the planners have to require such a move when it was a simple matter go one block north on Houston and then turn left onto Elm St. The claim that the motorcade route was changed at the last minute is a red herring.

 :D It is the previous map printed on the 22nd
Title: Re: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
Post by: Mitch Todd on March 22, 2026, 07:27:45 PM
It is the previous map printed on the 22nd
This is the description of the motorcade route published in the Nov 19 issue of the Dallas Times Herald:

"From the airport, the President's party will proceed to Mockingbird Lane to Lemmon and then to Turtle Creek, turning south to Cedar Springs.
The motorcade will then pass through downtown on Harwood and then west on Main, turning back to Elm at Houston and then out Stemmons Freeway to the Trade Mart."

The same day, the Morning News described the motorcade path downtown as travelling from "Harwood to Main, Main to Houston, Houston to Elm, Elm under the Triple Underpass to Stemmons Freeway, and on to the Trade Mart"

The motorcade route published in the 11/21 issue of the Times Herald shows the same route as previously described, including the Elm jog:

https://www.jfk.org/collections-archive/front-page-clipping-from-dallas-times-herald-11-21-1963/ (https://www.jfk.org/collections-archive/front-page-clipping-from-dallas-times-herald-11-21-1963/)


Title: Re: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
Post by: Michael Capasse on March 22, 2026, 07:53:54 PM
This is the description of the motorcade route published in the Nov 19 issue of the Dallas Times Herald:

"From the airport, the President's party will proceed to Mockingbird Lane to Lemmon and then to Turtle Creek, turning south to Cedar Springs.
The motorcade will then pass through downtown on Harwood and then west on Main, turning back to Elm at Houston and then out Stemmons Freeway to the Trade Mart."

The same day, the Morning News described the motorcade path downtown as travelling from "Harwood to Main, Main to Houston, Houston to Elm, Elm under the Triple Underpass to Stemmons Freeway, and on to the Trade Mart"

The motorcade route published in the 11/21 issue of the Times Herald shows the same route as previously described, including the Elm jog:

https://www.jfk.org/collections-archive/front-page-clipping-from-dallas-times-herald-11-21-1963/ (https://www.jfk.org/collections-archive/front-page-clipping-from-dallas-times-herald-11-21-1963/)

 Thumb1: ...and a map with a previous route that was published on the morning of.
Title: Re: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
Post by: John Corbett on March 22, 2026, 08:18:56 PM
This is the description of the motorcade route published in the Nov 19 issue of the Dallas Times Herald:

"From the airport, the President's party will proceed to Mockingbird Lane to Lemmon and then to Turtle Creek, turning south to Cedar Springs.
The motorcade will then pass through downtown on Harwood and then west on Main, turning back to Elm at Houston and then out Stemmons Freeway to the Trade Mart."

The same day, the Morning News described the motorcade path downtown as travelling from "Harwood to Main, Main to Houston, Houston to Elm, Elm under the Triple Underpass to Stemmons Freeway, and on to the Trade Mart"

The motorcade route published in the 11/21 issue of the Times Herald shows the same route as previously described, including the Elm jog:

https://www.jfk.org/collections-archive/front-page-clipping-from-dallas-times-herald-11-21-1963/ (https://www.jfk.org/collections-archive/front-page-clipping-from-dallas-times-herald-11-21-1963/)

The articles you quoted make the point very clear. There was no change to the planned route of the motorcade. It was ALWAYS intended to make the turn on Houston to bet over to Elm St. It is the only route that made any sense. The planners wanted to stay on Main St. all through downtown Dallas.

The story of the assassination is loaded with what-ifs. What-if one of the other sites considered for the luncheon had been selected. It is likely the motorcade would have gone in the opposite direction. From Love Field, the motorcade would have gone west toward I-35 (Stemmons), headed south to Main St. and gone east on Main St. through downtown before taking the quickest route to whichever site had been selected. Had that happened, Oswald would have had a very difficult long range cross shot at JFK on Main St. with Jackie in the way. Most likely Oswald wouldn't have even attempted the shot and most of us would have never heard about him. 
Title: Re: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
Post by: Mitch Todd on March 22, 2026, 10:23:25 PM
Thumb1: ...and a map with a previous route that was published on the morning of.
There was never a "previous route." 
Title: Re: Executive Action: "A Shabby Fiction about JFK"
Post by: Michael Capasse on March 22, 2026, 10:34:13 PM
There was never a "previous route."

There most certainly was.
 Thumb1: Both were printed in the local papers