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Title: Zapruder disproves Brugionis 2-3 frame headshot claim
Post by: Gerry Down on December 27, 2025, 02:47:53 PM
Dino Brugioni claimed that he had seen a different version of the Zapruder film which included a large red mist over JFKs head, which lasted 2 to 3 frames, at the time of the fatal head shot. The Zapruder film as it stands only shows a red mist for 1 frame which is frame 313. Brugioni claimed that the version of the Zapruder film we have now shows a much shorter headshot sequence than the version he saw.

However Abraham Zapruder disproves such a claim. When Zapruder sold the rights of the  Zapruder film to LIFE magazine, he stipulated that frame 313 must never be published, a stipulation that LIFE honored. The fact that Zapruder stipulated that only 1 frame must not be published, and not 2-3 frames, is prima facia evidence that the gore of the headshot did not last longer than 1 frame. 
Title: Re: Zapruder disproves Brugionis 2-3 frame headshot claim
Post by: Steve M. Galbraith on December 27, 2025, 04:24:14 PM
Dino Brugioni claimed that he had seen a different version of the Zapruder film which included a large red mist over JFKs head, which lasted 2 to 3 frames, at the time of the fatal head shot. The Zapruder film as it stands only shows a red mist for 1 frame which is frame 313. Brugioni claimed that the version of the Zapruder film we have now shows a much shorter headshot sequence than the version he saw.

However Abraham Zapruder disproves such a claim. When Zapruder sold the rights of the  Zapruder film to LIFE magazine, he stipulated that frame 313 must never be published, a stipulation that LIFE honored. The fact that Zapruder stipulated that only 1 frame must not be published, and not 2-3 frames, is prima facia evidence that the gore of the headshot did not last longer than 1 frame.
That maybe makes sense although I think Zapruder was more upset about the Z-313 frame showing the head exploding open then the spray being shown. Perhaps both. And you can see some mist in Z-314. Or I do. I think the B&W version that Life showed doesn't show it.

Of course, there are conspiracists who say Zapruder was one of the conspirators.

The key observation for me by Brugioni was that the mist/spray that he recalls seeing came out of the TOP of or OVER JFK's head NOT the rear. No rear mist/explosion.

Here's Z-314 from Costella. Looks like mist/spray above JFK's head.

(https://www.drivehq.com/file/DFPublishFile.aspx/FileID13093217729/Keyjgp16jocv157/z314.png)
Title: Re: Zapruder disproves Brugionis 2-3 frame headshot claim
Post by: Royell Storing on December 27, 2025, 04:25:58 PM
Dino Brugioni claimed that he had seen a different version of the Zapruder film which included a large red mist over JFKs head, which lasted 2 to 3 frames, at the time of the fatal head shot. The Zapruder film as it stands only shows a red mist for 1 frame which is frame 313. Brugioni claimed that the version of the Zapruder film we have now shows a much shorter headshot sequence than the version he saw.

However Abraham Zapruder disproves such a claim. When Zapruder sold the rights of the  Zapruder film to LIFE magazine, he stipulated that frame 313 must never be published, a stipulation that LIFE honored. The fact that Zapruder stipulated that only 1 frame must not be published, and not 2-3 frames, is prima facia evidence that the gore of the headshot did not last longer than 1 frame.

    The above assumes that Zapruder and Brugioni were viewing the same film under the same conditions. Brugioni viewed the Z Film at the NPIC over the course of an entire evening/early morning. And Brugioni repeatedly examined the film "5 Ways To Sunday". He also assembled "briefing boards" using still frame images from the Z Film he turned inside-out that night. The Zapruder viewing conditions? Wham-Bam, gotta have it Now, "and remember to pay the lady/man". Also, there is a chasm between "prima facie" and "Opinion". 
Title: Re: Zapruder disproves Brugionis 2-3 frame headshot claim
Post by: Jarrett Smith on December 27, 2025, 07:09:48 PM
Dino Brugioni claimed that he had seen a different version of the Zapruder film which included a large red mist over JFKs head, which lasted 2 to 3 frames, at the time of the fatal head shot. The Zapruder film as it stands only shows a red mist for 1 frame which is frame 313. Brugioni claimed that the version of the Zapruder film we have now shows a much shorter headshot sequence than the version he saw.

However Abraham Zapruder disproves such a claim. When Zapruder sold the rights of the  Zapruder film to LIFE magazine, he stipulated that frame 313 must never be published, a stipulation that LIFE honored. The fact that Zapruder stipulated that only 1 frame must not be published, and not 2-3 frames, is prima facia evidence that the gore of the headshot did not last longer than 1 frame.

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-06-2016/kFuygg.gif)

There is mist in several frames' forwards then backwards.
Title: Re: Zapruder disproves Brugionis 2-3 frame headshot claim
Post by: Mitch Todd on December 27, 2025, 07:50:27 PM
Dino Brugioni claimed that he had seen a different version of the Zapruder film which included a large red mist over JFKs head, which lasted 2 to 3 frames, at the time of the fatal head shot. The Zapruder film as it stands only shows a red mist for 1 frame which is frame 313. Brugioni claimed that the version of the Zapruder film we have now shows a much shorter headshot sequence than the version he saw.

However Abraham Zapruder disproves such a claim. When Zapruder sold the rights of the  Zapruder film to LIFE magazine, he stipulated that frame 313 must never be published, a stipulation that LIFE honored. The fact that Zapruder stipulated that only 1 frame must not be published, and not 2-3 frames, is prima facia evidence that the gore of the headshot did not last longer than 1 frame.
You can see the cloud of mist expand and dissipating in the next two or three frames after z313.

It's worth pointing out that the magenta, cyan, and yellow dyes used in color film fade over time, but do not do so at the same rate. Magenta takes longer to degrade than the other two colors. As the other dyes fade, the image becomes increasingly skewed towards magenta, which has the effect of reducing the contrast between magenta (and red and pink) areas and the rest of the photo. The cloud of spray was probably more distinctive in 1963 than it was 30 years later when the Z film was digitized, which would go a long way towards explaining why Dino's recollections do match what many researchers want to expect.

Then again, in 2013, Brugioni was a 90-year old man who'd just been shown copies of film frames that he hadn't seen for 50 years. I doubt it's wise to put so much faith in the detailed reliability of such old memories.