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JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate => JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate => Topic started by: Fred Litwin on September 17, 2025, 12:48:48 PM
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https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/should-we-believe-victor-marchetti-part-one (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/should-we-believe-victor-marchetti-part-one)
Should We Believe Victor Marchetti?, Part One
A recent article by Jefferson Morley touted the importance of Victor Marchetti, author of The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence. In Part One of this three-part series, I show that Marchetti said that Clay Shaw was just a contact source for the CIA, not a CIA operative. Part Two will show that he part of a hoax to tie the CIA and E. Howard Hunt to the JFK assassination. Part three will examine his character.
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https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/should-we-believe-victor-marchetti-part-one (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/should-we-believe-victor-marchetti-part-one)
Should We Believe Victor Marchetti?, Part One
A recent article by Jefferson Morley touted the importance of Victor Marchetti, author of The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence. In Part One of this three-part series, I show that Marchetti said that Clay Shaw was just a contact source for the CIA, not a CIA operative. Part Two will show that he part of a hoax to tie the CIA and E. Howard Hunt to the JFK assassination. Part three will examine his character.
Dear Fred,
How many typos are there in this sentence, one or two?
"Part Two will show that he part of a hoax to tie the CIA and E. Howard Hunt to the JFK assassination."
-- Tom
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[Marchetti said] Clay Shaw was just a contact source for the CIA, not a CIA operative.
Marchetti was correct when he said Clay Shaw was just a contact source for the CIA, not a CIA operative.
By the way, did you know that James Angleton's confidant, mentor, and mole-hunting superior, probable KGB "mole" Bruce Solie, was, according to (JFKA CT!!!) Malcolm Blunt, "all over the Kennedy investigation and all over Clay Shaw for Jim Garrison"?
-- Tom
Note: At the 1:00:30 mark, Blunt says "Jim DiEugenio . . . Jim DiEugenio" when he meant to say "Jim Garrison . . . Jim Garrison."
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https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/should-we-believe-victor-marchetti-part-one (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/should-we-believe-victor-marchetti-part-one)
Should We Believe Victor Marchetti?, Part One
A recent article by Jefferson Morley touted the importance of Victor Marchetti, author of The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence. In Part One of this three-part series, I show that Marchetti said that Clay Shaw was just a contact source for the CIA, not a CIA operative. Part Two will show that he part of a hoax to tie the CIA and E. Howard Hunt to the JFK assassination. Part three will examine his character.
IOW, every single solitary person or witness who has come forward with information indicating conspiracy was either lying, crazy, or misremembering. The 20-plus autopsy witnesses, including the morticians, who saw a large back-of-wound. The Parkland doctors and nurses who saw a large back-of-head wound. The Dallas funeral worker who could feel the edges of the large back-of-head wound. The autopsy doctors themselves, who swore up and down that they saw a fragment trail that ran from the EOP to a point behind the eye. Dr. Fred Hodges. Paul Landis. Dr. James Young. Sam Holland. Leonard Hutchinson. Officer D. V. Harkness. Officer Joe Smith. Danny Arce. Arnold Rowland. Lillian Mooneyham. James Simmons. Silvia Odio. Antonio Veciana. Warren Reynolds. Acqilla Clemons. Abraham Bolden. Richard Case Nagell. Gordon Arnold. Lee Bowers. Ed Hoffman. Albert Bogard. The Clinton-Jackson witnesses who said they saw Oswald with David Ferrie. Domingo Benavides. Don Adams. Joseph Milteer. William Somersett. Homer Wood. Sterling Wood. Eusebio Azcue. Dean Andrews. Lt. Col. Daniel Marvin. Buell Wesley Frazier. Lt. Frank Fruge. Rose Cheramie. Julia Ann Mercer. Adrian Alba. The HSCA's six acoustical scientists. Victoria Adams. Sandra Styles. Dorothy Garner. Ochus Campbell. Dolores Kounas. Austin Miller. A. J. Millican. Mary Woodward.
And on and on and on and on and on we could go.
According to you, every single one of these people was lying, crazy, or mistaken.
If just one of them was correct, the lone-gunman theory collapses.
That is a mighty fragile theory. No wonder 2/3 to 3/4 of the Western world doesn't buy it.
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IOW, every single solitary person or witness who has come forward with information indicating conspiracy was either lying, crazy, or misremembering.
Yep, that's correct. Not sure why it's so hard to understand that. Regarding the topic at hand, do you have any specific rebuttals to Fred's work on Victor Marchetti?
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IOW, every single solitary person or witness who has come forward with information indicating conspiracy was either lying, crazy, or misremembering. The 20-plus autopsy witnesses, including the morticians, who saw a large back-of-wound.
Every single piece of evidence that establishes that Oswald assassinated JFK was fake, planted, or altered. Ever witness, law enforcement officer or expert, who offered anything that helped establish Oswald's guilt was either lying, crazy, or misremembering. That includes the Bethesda pathologists who performed the autopsy.
Am I doing this right?
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“A May 15, 1973, memo in the files of researcher Richard Popkin recounts a conversation with former CIA official Victor Marchetti in which Marchetti reportedly offered "a theory he claimed to have heard that fits with his own picture of the chaos in the CIA; namely that the KGB has infiltrated the CIA and the CIA has infiltrated the KGB so it is impossible at the present stage to tell who is who (he mentioned a case of having been sent to meet somebody and being shown all sorts of identification and then being totally unable to tell whether he was dealing with a U.S. or Russian agent). Marchetti thinks it is the KGB branch of the CIA that killed Kennedy and that the U.S. CIA is too embarrassed to investigate and reveal the real state of affairs."
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This is interesting.
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https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/should-we-believe-victor-marchetti-part-two (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/should-we-believe-victor-marchetti-part-two)
Should We Believe Victor Marchetti?, Part Two
Marchetti was part of a hoax in 1978 when he published an article linking E. Howard Hunt to the JFK assassination. He claimed there was a 1966 CIA memo that stated there was a high level meeting at HQ to discuss a "limited hangout" strategy. They would admit Hunt was involved in order to protect its clandestine services. The only problem is that there was no such memo.
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“A May 15, 1973, memo in the files of researcher Richard Popkin recounts a conversation with former CIA official Victor Marchetti in which Marchetti reportedly offered "a theory he claimed to have heard that fits with his own picture of the chaos in the CIA; namely that the KGB has infiltrated the CIA and the CIA has infiltrated the KGB so it is impossible at the present stage to tell who is who (he mentioned a case of having been sent to meet somebody and being shown all sorts of identification and then being totally unable to tell whether he was dealing with a U.S. or Russian agent). Marchetti thinks it is the KGB branch of the CIA that killed Kennedy and that the U.S. CIA is too embarrassed to investigate and reveal the real state of affairs."
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This is interesting.
Did Marchetti think E. Howard Hunt was a KGB "mole"?
If so -- and if he was correct -- it might explain Hunt's allegedly telling Douglas Caddy that the CIA(?) or the Military(?) killed JFK because he was fixin' to tell Khrushchev about "The Alien Presence."
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AFAIK, Marchetti did not consider EH Hunt as a KGB mole.
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https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/should-we-believe-victor-marchetti-part-three (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/should-we-believe-victor-marchetti-part-three)
Should We Believe Victor Marchetti?, Part Three
Marchetti started a homophobic newspaper in 1982. I present some of the articles from three of its issues, as well as a revealing Washington Pos profile of Marchetti.
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https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/should-we-believe-victor-marchetti-part-two (https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/should-we-believe-victor-marchetti-part-two)
Should We Believe Victor Marchetti?, Part Two
Marchetti was part of a hoax in 1978 when he published an article linking E. Howard Hunt to the JFK assassination. He claimed there was a 1966 CIA memo that stated there was a high-level meeting at HQ to discuss a "limited hangout" strategy. They would admit Hunt was involved in order to protect its clandestine services. The only problem is that there was no such memo.
Dear Fred,
If Hunt was a "mole," Marchetti was probably right.
Regardless, he was correct when he said Clay Shaw was just a contact source for the CIA, not a CIA operative.
Reposting this here for you:
Did you know that James Angleton's confidant, mentor, and mole-hunting superior, probable KGB "mole" Bruce Solie, was, according to (JFKA CT!!!) Malcolm Blunt, "all over the Kennedy investigation and all over Clay Shaw for Jim Garrison"?
-- Tom
Note: At the 1:00:30 mark, Blunt says "Jim DiEugenio . . . Jim DiEugenio" when he meant to say "Jim Garrison . . . Jim Garrison."
-- Tom