JFK Assassination Forum

Another $60 billion for Ukraine!  Where have all those pro-Ukraine posters gone who told us two years ago that there was no stalemate, and the cost would not be great.  The war rages on and on with no change except more deaths, destruction, and countless billions spent.  What is the plan to end it?  Incredibly, there still doesn't appear to be any or even a process for devising one.  The situation has gotten worse each day for the people of Ukraine.  They are a pawn in Old Joe's endless war supported by republican warmongers and Trump hating Dems for their own political purposes. 

How can I be any more clear?  Let's debate the shooting death of J.D. Tippit and Oswald's relationship to that death.  The entire case, Callaway, Butler, loading the body and everything else.  You'd be worthy, unlike someone like Iacoletti who would spend the entire debate saying things like "Oswald's gun LOL".  I know you'd at least discuss the case, which I can respect.

I thought I felt my ears burning.

If you don't want to be LOLed at, then don't make statements of fact that you cannot substantiate as facts.  It's really that simple.  That's not "discussing the case".  That's propagandizing.

As for the Hertz clock and Curry's 12:30 broadcast, that was on police channel 2.  All of the Tippit-related broadcasts were on channel 1.  But your fatal flaw is assuming that you have any basis for determining how much time elapsed between the Tippit shooting and the Benavides/Bowley call.  It's completely speculative.

How Many Shots? Varying Opinions

First of all, these are not all "opinions".  If they are relating what they recall hearing, they are giving evidence.   If they do not recall the number of shots but, in analysing it later, figure that they heard a certain number of shots, they are giving an opinion rather than a recollection of events. It is important to separate opinion from memory recall and that can only be done through careful questioning which, in most cases, did not take place.  The best way to separate recollection from opinion is to look at the earliest statements of witnesses and see what they recalled voluntarily.

With a large number of witnesses, the witnesses are seldom in complete agreement on even the most salient details (ie. details that more than 50% of witnesses to an event recall voluntarily).  So it is hardly surprising that some witnesses disagree with others.  With at least 132 witnesses, it would be more surprising if all witnesses agreed.  Studies have shown that witnesses are generally 90%-95% accurate in recalling salient details:  See: Loftus, Eyewitness Testimony (1979) p. 25-31

One has to look at all the evidence and determine whether any conclusion can be drawn with any level of confidence.  In looking at all the evidence, it is not difficult to conclude with a high level of confidence that there were exactly three loud sounds heard. 

Could the darkness of Oswald's pants and the police outfits appear "charcoal" in sunlight?