Handy guide to Walt's fabrications

[Tim Nickerson]

Tim, you seem not to properly weigh the consideration of the sniper's situational awareness,  even more so if you buy into the verifying sign
of awareness....that a sixth floor shooter declined the easier approach shot,  before the motorcade turn. A single sniper is attempting to shoot to
death the most powerful man in the world. Not taking the shot on approach indicates awareness the target is protected by multiple
trained shooters firing from impossible to fully anticipate locations, some expected to be armed with fully automatic weapons with already
chambered rounds, sweeping the approach, high and low, literally with dozens of pairs of eyes.

I think your presentation is much more wishful  than persuasive.

I know one personally, before and after the training described below, with hits in combat deployment. He worked with this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2010_Enhanced_Sniper_Rifle

Tom, How have you determined that I haven't properly weighed the consideration of the sniper's situational awareness? I have never argued that Oswald should have tried shooting the President while the limo was approaching on Houston.

[Walt Cakebread]

So...if you don't have a clip for it,  the Carcano is useless and you are f..d in battle? OK I'll go and watch Snicker's videos.

So...if you don't have a clip for it,  the Carcano is useless and you are f..d in battle?

Well no....you wouldn't be completely without a weapon......  If you didn't have a clip for your carcano you could fire it as as single shot with about the speed of an old black powder muzzle loader.   To fire the carcano as a single shot you would need to attach the live cartridge to the face of the bolt ( ie insert the rim of the cartridge behind the annular space on the face of the bolt and also behind the cartridge extractor )   Then when you have the LIVE cartridge seated on the face of the bolt you could insert the assemble ( bolt & cartridge) into the breech of the carcano and close and latch the bolt....And all the while you were doing the above you'd be praying a dozen "Hail Mary's", that the cocked firing pin didn't become unlatched and fire the live cartridge before you could get the bolt closed.....

[Bill Chapman]

The testers said they would be able to operate the weapon faster had they had more practice in operating the bolt (according to Fritz). Practice makes perfect; Marina saw Oswald sitting outside under his raincoat (or some such) working the bolt on at least one occasion, apparently. And HSCA testers achieved two shots in 1.67 seconds (the second shot always missed; only the first shot could be precisely aimed)

[Walt Cakebread]

The testers said they would be able to operate the weapon faster had they had more practice in operating the bolt (according to Fritz). Practice makes perfect; Marina saw Oswald sitting outside under his raincoat (or some such) working the bolt on at least one occasion, apparently. And HSCA testers achieved two shots in 1.67 seconds (the second shot always missed; only the first shot could be precisely aimed)

Marina saw Oswald sitting outside under his raincoat (or some such) working the bolt on at least one occasion,

Only an ignoramus who has no experience with rifles would accept such a stupid idea.....Merely working the bolt of a rifle does not qualify as "practice firing" a rifle....

If simply operating the bolt was all that was required to train a recruit, the military sure as hell wouldn't spend millions of dollars on weapons and ammo and classrooms, and firing ranges....

[Bill Chapman]

Marina saw Oswald sitting outside under his raincoat (or some such) working the bolt on at least one occasion,

Only an ignoramus who has no experience with rifles would accept such a stupid idea.....Merely working the bolt of a rifle does not qualify as "practice firing" a rifle....

If simply operating the bolt was all that was required to train a recruit, the military sure as hell wouldn't spend millions of dollars on weapons and ammo and classrooms, and firing ranges....

@Newbies: Wallyburger has conveniently edited out my point; which is that the testers indicated they would have had quicker firing times if they had more practice working the bolt action

@Wallyburger: A quick chambering of the ammo is aided or hindered by how good or bad the user handles the bolt action. You lot always claim the Carcano was clunky to operate. So thanks for agreeing that the testers were at a disadvantage by dint of not having sufficient practice time working that 'clunky' bolt and firing that 'clunky' rifle.

[Walt Cakebread]

@Newbies: Wallyburger has conveniently edited out my point; which is that the testers indicated they would have had quicker firing times if they had more practice working the bolt action

@Wallyburger: A quick chambering of the ammo is aided or hindered by how good or bad the user handles the bolt action. You lot always claim the Carcano was clunky to operate. So thanks for agreeing that the testers were at a disadvantage by dint of not having sufficient practice time working that 'clunky' bolt and firing that 'clunky' rifle.

You lot always claim the Carcano was clunky to operate. So thanks for agreeing that the testers were at a disadvantage by dint of not having sufficient practice time working that 'clunky' bolt and firing that 'clunky' rifle.

Very Good.... Now you're exhibiting a tiny bit of intelligence, Chappie....  ( on par with a 7 year old)

You're right the tester said the rifle bolt was difficult to operate and inhibited the rifle from being fired rapidly and accurately....  In your words It was "clunky" and not at all suitable to use as a quickly fired sniper rifle. 

I'm drawing on personal experience with a Mannlicher Carcano ( I have several) ....The stiff firing pin spring in the bolt of the carcano bolt is compressed as the bolt is being turned and unlatched after firing a live cartridge.....   At the same time the firing pin spring is being compressed the hot, and expanded spent cartridge is being twisted in the firing chamber.   Then the expanded spent shell is drawn to the rear and ejected .  The compression of the FP spring and the friction of the spent shell causes the rifle to be twisted counterclockwise in the shooters left hand ....and the barrel of the rifle is pulled off target.

A poorly serviced and maintained rifle ( one that is dirty and not well lubricated) compounds the problem by a factor of ten.....

The testers were using a well serviced and lubricated  rifle and still they could not duplicate the feat that a few ignorant suckers profess to believe Lee Oswald accomplished....  Rave on Chappie....

[Jerry Freeman]

This video clip has a proficient shooter using a bench rest and it takes 10 seconds to aim and fire 3 rounds.
The questions that El Chapo and  his cohorts can't answer are where did Oswald develop the proficiency to shoot this particular weapon as alleged. [And please don't bend over and reveal a naked backside by saying the Marine Corps] Another question not answered all these years is what happened to the ammunition for that rifle. None was ever found anywhere that Oswald was.