Handy guide to Walt's fabrications

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Handy guide to Walt's fabrications
« Reply #182 on: February 26, 2019, 08:52:57 PM »
So .....How do you know that the carbine in the video has not been altered?

It's amazing how many of these people, who have never even heard of Walt Cakebread, go to the trouble of modifying their rifles just to fool everyone into thinking that Walt Cakebread is wrong.

Maybe Walt Cakebread is just wrong.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Handy guide to Walt's fabrications
« Reply #183 on: February 26, 2019, 09:29:17 PM »
Or maybe your ego won't allow you to admit that you're wrong.

No, that's not true....  But I am a stubborn A-- hole....  And when someone tries to give me a dog turd and tell me it's a candy bar..... I do become indignant. 

Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Handy guide to Walt's fabrications
« Reply #184 on: February 27, 2019, 05:51:18 PM »
(Quote Link Above= Reply by Tom Scully to a heapin' helpin" of Walt's BS....)

I abhor long winded BS posts...

The Bottom line is J.Edgar Hoover.....
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Handy guide to Walt's fabrications
« Reply #185 on: February 27, 2019, 05:59:34 PM »



Mr Scully.... Where did the BY photo (CE 133A)  come from??   Where did the DFP get the photo?....  J.Edgar Hoover.... 

Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Handy guide to Walt's fabrications
« Reply #186 on: February 27, 2019, 06:11:50 PM »

Mr Scully.... Where did the BY photo (CE 133A)  come from??   Where did the DFP get the photo?....  J.Edgar Hoover....

Sigh....! Let the record indicate that the time stamp (05:33:27 PM) below, pointing (linking) to a post by me,
is identical to the time stamp included in my immediate last post, ON THIS VERY PAGE of the INSTANT THREAD!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Roberts_(journalist)
Eugene Leslie Roberts, Jr. (born June 15, 1932)[1] is an American journalist and professor of journalism. He has been a national editor of The New York Times, executive editor of The Philadelphia Inquirer from 1972 to 1990, and managing editor of The New York Times from 1994 to 1997. Roberts is most known for presiding over The Inquirer's "Golden Age",[2] a time in which the newspaper was given increased freedom and resources, won 17 Pulitzer Prizes in 18 years,[3] displaced The Philadelphia Bulletin as the city's "paper of record", and was considered to be Knight Ridder's crown jewel as a profitable enterprise and an influential regional paper.[4]
.......Career  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Roberts_(journalist)#Career
Roberts was born in Pikeville[citation needed] in the Goldsboro, North Carolina Metropolitan Area. He grew up in North Carolina and worked for newspapers in Goldsboro, N.C.; Norfolk, Va.; Raleigh, N.C.; and Detroit. He covered the Kennedy Assassination in Dallas for the Detroit Free Press and subsequently covered the Civil Rights Movement as a correspondent for The New York Times, where he also served as Saigon bureau chief in 1968 during the Vietnam War. After serving as national editor at The Times from 1969 to 1972, he was hired by John S. Knight to head The Inquirer. He retired in 1990 and returned to the Times as managing editor from 1994 to 1998.

Roberts taught journalism from 1991 to 1994 and from 1998 to 2010 at the Philip Merrill College of Journalism, University of Maryland.

He is on the board of directors of the Committee to Protect Journalists and served five years as its chairman; he has also served as chairman of the Pulitzer Prize Board, the International Press Institute, and the Board Of Visitors of the School of Communications at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.....

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Adam Wilkinson   Posted October 7, 2005
I just thought I would share an interview I conducted with Gene Roberts over email.

A March 2, 1964 article in Newsweek Magazine claimed that Gene Roberts had purchased a number of photographs of Oswald on behalf of the Detroit Free Press. The negative of one of these photographs has never been located or analysed, so I asked Gene the following questions:

1. Who sold you these photographs?

2. What photos were included in the purchase?

3. Did the Warren Commission or the House Select Committee on Assassinations ever try to contact you to reacquire these photos?

4. Do you know what became of these photos?

Here is his answer for any researcher who may be interested:

The photographs you asked about came from the files of the district

attorney?s office in Dallas.
The DA got them from the FBI. They were the

same photographs that were given to the Warren Commission.

The photographs included the well known photograph of Oswald holding a

rifle in one hand and The Worker, the Communist Party newspaper from New

York, in the other; photocopies of Oswald?s identity cards, some with

aliases and others in his own name; and some family photos, as I recall.

I don?t remember the exact number, but there were possibly as many as 25

or 30. Almost all of the photographs were later made public, but at the

time they were new to the reading public.

No negatives were involved, only copies of photos and documents in the

FBI files. The FBI made them available to the Dallas DA to aid in the

prosecution of the Jack Ruby case. I correctly guessed this might happen

and made every effort to cultivate people in the DA?s office in the hope

that I might get access to the files. One employee of the DA made the

files available to me from 8 p.m. on a Saturday night to 8 a.m. on

Sunday morning, a 12-hour period when the employee did not think anyone

would be in the DA?s office.
I hired an experienced photo lab person to

photocopy the file during the 12-hour period. I stayed with him during

the entire copying process and he provided me with two copies of every

photo and document in the file.

I had planned to route each set of copies on different airlines from

Dallas to my newspaper at the time, the Detroit Free Press in Detroit,

Michigan But I was so sleep-deprived that when I arrived at the

Dallas-Fort Worth airport on Sunday at about 9 a.m., I failed to make my

instructions clear and both sets of photographs were routed on the same

flight to Detroit. Because of weather conditions ? or mechanical

problems, I can?t remember which ? the plane was grounded in New Orleans

for several hours.

Panic developed at the Free Press, which wanted the photos in time for

the first edition of the Monday paper, which had a 6 p.m. deadline on

Sunday. We knew that Life magazine had access to some of the photos and

would start appearing at newsstands about noon on Monday. We wanted to

beat them to the punch.

As the deadline approached, editors in Detroit asked me to describe the

pictures and estimate the size of each photo that would be on page one.

With this information, the paper set the type for the front page and

made the page with holes for the pictures.

The plane arrived in Detroit about 30 minutes before deadline on Sunday

at the Detroit airport, which was about 30 minutes by car from the Free

Press building. My editor, Derrick Daniels, had motorcycles waiting on

the tarmac to speed the photos to the newsroom, where he had photo

editors and airbrush artists waiting to expedite the photos into the

paper. In 1964, engraving processes were not as sophisticated as they

later became, and it was commonplace to airbrush photos with white

liquid chalk to heighten the definition between dark and gray areas in

photographs. In the haste to get the photos in the paper, an airbrusher

covered the sniper scope (on the rifle Oswald was holding along with The

Worker paper) with liquid chalk.

Our paper was indeed available several hours ahead of Life. But when

Life appeared on newsstands, its photo of Oswald with The Worker paper

had a sniper scope. The Free Press photo did not. Armchair detectives

around the world found this to be highly suspicious.

But the Life and Free Press photos were both copies of the very same

photograph. Because airbrushers use liquid chalk that can be scratched

away with a fingernail, you could easily determine that the photographs

were the same. The apparent discrepancies of the photos have been

mentioned several times over the years in books and articles, creating a

mystery where none really existed. Had anyone taken the time to visit

the morgues (libraries) of the two publications, they could have seen

that the photos were the same.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Handy guide to Walt's fabrications
« Reply #187 on: February 27, 2019, 06:16:03 PM »
Sigh....! Let the record note that the time stamp below, quoting myself, is identical to the time stamp included in my immediate
last post, ON THIS VERY PAGE of the INSTANT THREAD!

That doesn't address the problem....  Was J.Edgar Hoover the source for the BY photo being presented to the public?   A simple "yes"  or "no", please...

Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Handy guide to Walt's fabrications
« Reply #188 on: February 27, 2019, 06:27:06 PM »
That doesn't address the problem....  Was J.Edgar Hoover the source for the BY photo being presented to the public?   A simple "yes"  or "no", please...

Walt, at long last, will you even consider the possibility you are the problem?
Two press outlets published similar BYP photos in nearly the same time frame.... Above, I accounted for the origin of the photo print
acquired by DFP's Gene Roberts, at the time, in early 1964, per an interview of Roberts claimed in 2005 by Adam Wilkinson   (Posted October 7, 2005).

Prior to that, I posted this research I completed earlier today, supporting the origin of the similar photo posted (published) by Life Magazine.:
....and this was your reply to my post containing that information supporting the source of the photo published by Life, as that
magazine was attempting to beat the Detroit Free Press efforts to publish before Life Magazine could.:

I am typing this post sitting on a bed in my folks' basement, an exercise distracting me from worrying about my out of control body weight! How 'bout you, Walt?


Perhaps you could reduce that out of control body weight by taking a long walk on a short pier....
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