Oswald's revolver

[Walt Cakebread]

RE Myers, to save the reader a little time:

Anonymous said...

    Is the following true ? - Sergeant Gerald Hill examined one of the shells and radioed the police dispatcher, saying: "The shell at the scene indicates that the suspect is armed with an automatic .38 rather than a pistol."

    If LHO was carrying a revolver , why did he leave the spent cartridge cases at the scene of the crime ?

    That makes no sense to me !
    October 22, 2012 at 4:16 PM
Dale K. Myers said...

    Anonymous, Oswald discarded the empty shells at the scene as he fled in order to reload his revolver with live ammunition. Numerous witnesses saw him reloading the revolver as he fled. As for Sgt. Gerald Hill's comments, yes it is true, he radioed that the shells at the scene indicate that the suspect was armed with an automatic rather than a pistol. However, you may not be aware that Hill later admitted that he based is comment on the assumption that the shells had been recovered at the scene because they had been ejected by an automatic handgun. Hill was unaware that witnesses had seen Oswald unloading his revolver manually. When Oswald was arrested, the revolver he pulled on arresting officers was fully loaded and Oswald had five additional live rounds in his pocket.
    October 22, 2012 at 9:33 PM

This argument is complete nonsense since Hill didn't have to assume anything as Myers himself explains in the video @1:10 ... the shell itself can be identified as an automatic.

But it's even worse -- Hill to the WC:

Mr. BELIN. You went back to 400 East 10th Street?
Mr. HILL. Right. And Poe showed me a Winston cigarette package that contained three spent jackets from shells that he said a citizen had pointed out to him where the suspect had reloaded his gun and dropped these in the grass, and that the citizen had picked them up and put them in the Winston package. I told Poe to maintain the chain of evidence as small as possible, for him to retain these at that time, and to be sure and mark them for evidence, and then turn them over to the crime lab when he got there, or to homicide. 

Evidently the shells fired from an automatic would have landed by Tippit's car not on the corner of 10th and Patton. The shells being from an automatic totally sinks the official narrative. Again, this fully exposes the WC investigation as a fraud because BELIN neglects this important issue which is obvious from the police tape transcript linked below.

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/html/WH_Vol21_0211a.htm (at the 1:40 AM mark)

 If LHO was carrying a revolver , why did he leave the spent cartridge cases at the scene of the crime ?

    That makes no sense to me !

Either the killer was totally unconcerned about leaving the evidence of the spent shells at the scene ( because he knew his confederates on the DPD would cover for him )....or he was deliberately planting evidence that would be used to incriminate their patsy, Lee Oswald. 

[Walt Cakebread]

I have.  And I didn't.

Of course you didn't ( change your mind) .....   Just as it's impossible to form concrete after it's cured.....Your brain is like concrete..... 

[Gary Craig]

[Bob Prudhomme]

"Mr. HILL. There were six in the chambers of the gun. One of them had an indention in the primer that appeared to be caused by the hammer. There were five others. All of the shells at this time had indentions."

What does Hill mean when he says the other five shells also had "indentions"? Was he saying their primers were indented as the 6th one was?



BUMP

[John Iacoletti]

Of course you didn't ( change your mind) .....   Just as it's impossible to form concrete after it's cured.....Your brain is like concrete.....

All it takes is scientific evidence, Walt.  Voice Stress Analysis is neither.

[Jerry Freeman]

Oswald has been arrested in the Theater and they get in the car. Carroll, the driver has Oswald's gun in his belt. He hands the gun to Hill who is sitting next to him in the front seat. Hill breaks the gun open to see if there are any live rounds in it. Hill tells the WC:

 http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hill_gl.htm

Mr. HILL. Then I broke the gun open to see how many shells it contained and how many live rounds it had in it.
Mr. BELIN. How many did you find?
Mr. HILL. There were six in the chambers of the gun. One of them had an indention in the primer that appeared to be caused by the hammer. There were five others. All of the shells at this time had indentions.
All of the shells appeared to have at one time or another scotch tape on them because in an area that would have been the width of a half inch strip of scotch tape, there was kind of a bit of lint and residue on the jacket of the shell.

Wouldn't you just grab a handful of shells out of the box and stick them in your pocket?
Did the shells the police found in Oswald's pocket about 4 hours after they brought him into the station also have scotch tape residue on them?

There weird part is ...there was no 'box'.
No other ammunition of any kind was proven to have been in Oswald's possession at any time.
The rifle shells and remaining loads were [apparently] print free also. Room-free of bullets...Paine garage ...no ammo.
These facts seem difficult to ignore but yet they have been been since 1963.
No proof existed that Oswald loaded the revolver or had ever fired it prior to the alleged encounter.
 
Can we get our head around....how many rounds of ammo did Oswald allegedly bring with the gun?
We have the slugs that were fired into the cop=4 correct?....then how many shells were found?...
four [they say].
According to the Dale Meyers  research  [based on testimony?] there were six rounds found in the revolver plus five more found in Oswald's pocket plus the four shots that makes 5+6+4=15 bullets so far but we don't really know if the gun was supposed to be fully loaded to begin with do we? But then why not?
If it was, then that would mean that the supposed killer would have had taken [indeed] a total of 15 rounds to combat the entire Dallas Police Department...six in the gun and nine extra.
The alleged, capped Tippit with three in the chest that put the cop down...why the coup d' gras? One in the head? Seemed an unnecessary use of a rapidly diminishing arsenal.

I believe this memo states that the FBI didn't match rounds from the alleged revolver and fired by the alleged killer did not match any bullets found in any other shot up bodies.
Also indention info....Q-177 & Q-178... Did the FBI not disagree with Sgt Hill?
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10672#relPageId=164&tab=page