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Triple Overpass Again
Matt Grantham:
I realize the smoke is getting pretty thick in terms of witnesses at the GN, so we might as well add some mirrors
Zeon Mason:
Jack Lawrence worked for the Downtown Lincoln-Mercury car dealership in Dallas. Lawrence claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald asked to test-drive a car in early November. Afterwards Lawrence reported the incident to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
On 21st November, 1963, Lawrence borrowed one of the firm's cars. The following day he failed to turn up for work. According to Jim Marrs (Crossfire): "about thirty minutes after the assassination, he came hustling through the company's show room, pale and sweating with mud on his clothes. He rushed into the men's room and threw up. He told co-workers he had been ill that morning, and that he had tried to drive the car back to the dealership but had to park it due to the heavy traffic. Later, employees found the car parked behind the wooden picket fence on top of the Grassy Knoll overlooking Dealey Plaza."
Lawrence's strange behaviour was reported to the Dallas police. He was interviewed by officers investigating the assassination of John F. Kennedy. They discovered that Lawrence was a marksman in the United States Air Force.
According to Beverly Oliver, Lawrence was a regular at the Carousel Club (owned by Jack Ruby) and a close friend of George Senator.
spartacus-educational.com/JFKlawrence.htm
Steve Howsley:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on July 03, 2018, 03:19:27 PM ---I realize the smoke is getting pretty thick in terms of witnesses at the GN, so we might as well add some mirrors
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I do like that suggestion. :D
Barry Pollard:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on July 03, 2018, 01:48:55 AM --- "Ridiculous"? Not Hardly. Those statements are Consistent and Corroborate each other. Why not include SA Landis, (standing on the Passenger side running board of the Queen Mary), and his statement as to seeing a guy running East across the North side of the Knoll toward The Steps as the Queen Mary sped toward the Triple Underpass? Or Sitzman telling Tink Thompson that after dismounting The Perch she Immediately Ran Down the knoll & then came back up it and talked with a G Man who provided ID? And what about Officer Hargis's WC Testimony of his running Up the knoll to the little "brick wall"? How about SA Lem Johns jumping out of the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car, running down Elm St, and then was left standing in the middle of Elm St as the JFK Motorcade sped away? NONE of this lengthy list is on Any assassination image(s) yet you naively throw in with Uncle Sam's long time buddy = The Kodak Connection.
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How can you be atop the TU and claim that a policeman ran or on his bike went up the grassy incline towards the TSBD?
That's not what they saw and it's not what they said, it is of course ridiculous.
That's the FEDs making less work for themselves. Having these witnesses describing a cop running toward their direction, the wrong direction, creates another line of enquiry to follow, if he's running toward the building they can turn it in and forgedaboutit.
Is that any clearer?
Allan Fritzke:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on July 03, 2018, 01:48:55 AM --- "Ridiculous"? Not Hardly. Those statements are Consistent and Corroborate each other. Why not include SA Landis, (standing on the Passenger side running board of the Queen Mary), and his statement as to seeing a guy running East across the North side of the Knoll toward The Steps as the Queen Mary sped toward the Triple Underpass? ......
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A significant point of interest w.r.t. SA Landis. You can see him duck at about the same time or just before the President was shot. He saw something going down and must have felt that he was in the line of fire from a frontal assault. I believe that coordinates with Z-322. This is almost the same instant that the "bi-afro" girl hesitates and changes direction when running towards the President's limousine at about Z-322. There is synergy between 2 different films to give a time reference. She saw something at front that made her change direction. That is my pet theory that the assassin came down off the steps and stepped in front of the car. Driver Greer's head moved toward the windshield to protect from glass spray and that move can be seen in the Zapruder Frames. The assassin fired 2 shots about 1/2 a second apart with a gun and then rolled into the grass behind/beside Altgens.
I maintain that there was no Z-313 shot and that the President saw something happen in front of him, raised his arm to defend himsel and moved back in his seat. This was his last move when the hand goes down. That to me was a conscious move and not done as a subliminal reaction to Z-313 supposed head shot. The major head shot came in at Z-329/330 where you can see the President's head turn into a red blob and Jacqueline begins to react and wants to leave the limousine. Landis must have saw something that made him duck - no one else on the Queen Mary reacts.
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