What happened to the Mauser?

[Tim Nickerson]

Bottom of page how [analyst] Latona mentions the old p.o.s rifle couldn't maintain latent prints......
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=34#relPageId=38&tab=page

That's the same Latona who confirmed that the palm print was Oswald's and who later confirmed that the print had indeed been lifted from the barrel of Oswald's rifle.

[Walt Cakebread]

Alyea is also on record as saying that there were no chicken bones on the sixth floor. He said that they were on the fifth floor. Alyea is also on record as saying that Sheriff Mooney never reached the sixth floor until after the rifle was found.

Your puzzle has now been reasonably answered.

Not Quite..Snickerson....Because Lt Day himself said that Alyea filmed him as he examined the rifle....

The latent fingerprints appeared immediately while the rifle was being dusted on the sixth floor after it was located behind the stacks of boxes. This action was captured on film by a news photographer who had been allowed on the sixth floor by police.

And don't you agree that it would be a bit stupid for Lt Day to lift a palm print off the gun and then hastily scrawl " off underside gun barrell near end of foregrip on rifle C 2766."  After all he was allegedly in the police lab where he could have  neatly typed up a complete detailed description of what he'd found....

Perhaps you can't remember that Alyea described Day LIFTING a print from the rifle and placing that lift on a 3 X 5 file card and then hastily scrawling the information pertaining to the cellophane tape with the smudge on it.

[Walt Cakebread]

Tom Alyea has recorded that he watched as Lt Day applied cellophane tape to the print and lifted it  from the rifle

That was the palm print under the stock

Tom Alyea has recorded that he watched as Lt Day applied cellophane tape to the print and lifted it  from the rifle

That was the palm print under the stock.

HUH??....  I believe you need to put a cork in it....Tom Alyea was NOT in the police crime lab on the evening od 11 /22 /63, and watching Detective Day examine the rifle ...   But He definitely was on the sixth floor of the TSBD that afternoon and he watched as Day examined the rifle and lifted a print from that rifle....

[Tim Nickerson]

Not Quite..Snickerson....Because Lt Day himself said that Alyea filmed him as he examined the rifle....

The latent fingerprints appeared immediately while the rifle was being dusted on the sixth floor after it was located behind the stacks of boxes. This action was captured on film by a news photographer who had been allowed on the sixth floor by police.

And don't you agree that it would be a bit stupid for Lt Day to lift a palm print off the gun and then hastily scrawl " off underside gun barrell near end of foregrip on rifle C 2766."  After all he was allegedly in the police lab where he could have  neatly typed up a complete detailed description of what he'd found....

Perhaps you can't remember that Alyea described Day LIFTING a print from the rifle and placing that lift on a 3 X 5 file card and then hastily scrawling the information pertaining to the cellophane tape with the smudge on it.

Geez Walt, you ought to retire from this stuff. What Alyea described was not accurate.  Alyea recalled a number of things that were just not so.

[Walt Cakebread]

Geez Walt, you ought to retire from this stuff. What Alyea described was not accurate.  Alyea recalled a number of things that were just not so.

I understand that you don't want to acknowledge that Tom Alyea reported what he saw....  And who are you to deny that he saw chicken bones on the fifth floor...  There very well could have been chicken bones on any floor and in any number of places where a person might eat a snack or his lunch...But even Day himself acknowledged that Tom Alyea  watched him as he examined the rifle .....and filmed the rifle in place.

And as proof we have some of Alyea's film which does in fact prove to anybody who isn't suffering from cranial rectalitis that Alyea reported what he saw....And he swore that he saw Detective Day use cellophane tape on that rifle while examining it in the TSBD.

[Tim Nickerson]

I understand that you don't want to acknowledge that Tom Alyea reported what he saw....  And who are you to deny that he saw chicken bones on the fifth floor...  There very well could have been chicken bones on any floor and in any number of places where a person might eat a snack or his lunch...But even Day himself acknowledged that Tom Alyea  watched him as he examined the rifle .....and filmed the rifle in place.

And as proof we have some of Alyea's film which does in fact prove to anybody who isn't suffering from cranial rectalitis that Alyea reported what he saw....And he swore that he saw Detective Day use cellophane tape on that rifle while examining it in the TSBD.

He didn't just say that he saw chicken bones on the fifth floor. He said that the sack containing those chicken bones and the Dr. Pepper bottle, that he filmed Studebaker dusting for prints, were on the fifth floor and that there were no chicken bones at all on the sixth floor.

Alyea's film footage doesn't prove what you think it proves.

[Walt Cakebread]

He didn't just say that he saw chicken bones on the fifth floor. He said that the sack containing those chicken bones and the Dr. Pepper bottle, that he filmed Studebaker dusting for prints, were on the fifth floor and that there were no chicken bones at all on the sixth floor.

Alyea's film footage doesn't prove what you think it proves.

The chicken stuff that was in the Smoker's Nook behind the SE corner window on the sixth floor  apparently was moved around a bit before it was gathered up to be taken to the DPD crime lab.  Perhaps it had been removed or moved to a different location and it wasn't there when Alyea saw the Smoker's nook....   Neither you nor I can know the exact details.... 

And Alyea's footage most certainly DOES show the Carcano lying on THE FLOOR on it's right side, with the butt plate parallel with the floor, and on a North South axis.  The leather sling was up......

That rifle was NOT jammed between boxes of books when Day picked it up by the leather sling that was right there at his finger tips...