What happened to the Mauser?

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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #147 on: July 05, 2018, 11:26:30 PM »


Well, here we go... there is more testimony about the Mauser... Is it credible? Sounds credible...

Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #148 on: July 06, 2018, 12:08:44 AM »


Gary, Maybe I missed something here... Who answers the last question in that article (I found out, Penn Jones)? And what do we know about Captain Glen King's testimony....?

And the Mauser on the roof story... a security guard dropped it?
That sounds about as convincing as, "the dog ate my homework."









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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #149 on: July 06, 2018, 12:34:25 AM »

Thanx Walt..pardon my ignorance...is that nearby?
would I see either one if I was looking at the rifle like this ...



When we see the rifle being pickup in Alyea..is that the 1st time? - really? -how can we be sure?
Weitzman & Boone said they said stayed around for about 2-3 minutes after the rifle is pulled - where are they in the film?
I can't get past 2 good cops going back to the office and writing the 7.65  They're writing reports of the rifle; but are unsure?
 - why would they write that - next day?..and then write it again


Thanx Walt..pardon my ignorance...is that nearby?
would I see either one if I was looking at the rifle like this ...



Probably not Michael ....And Roger Craig never got that close to the rifle.   If he had he probably would have needed a magnifying glass to read small the stamping on the rifle. 

Michael you're a smart guy..... don't handicap yourself by believing something that is so easily shown to be a lie.

Personally... I sincerely wish Roger Craig's words could be taken without question.  But alas....that is not the case.

Online Mitch Todd

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #150 on: July 06, 2018, 12:53:17 AM »
Mitch, You say,
There is also no mention of "7.65 Mauser" in his 1971 work "When They Kill a President."

I just read through Craig's book, When They Kill a President... He does mention a Mauser (below):

Capt. Fritz asked if anyone knew what kind of rifle it
was. Weitzman asked to see it. After a *close* examination (much
longer than Fritz or Day's examination) Weitzman declared that it
was a 7.65 German Mauser. Fritz agreed with him.


I'm talking about Craig's claim to have actually seen "Mauser" and "7.65" stamped into the barrel of the rifle. I apologize if I didn't state it clearly enough. The "I saw'Mauser 7.65' stamped on the barrel of the rifle" part of his story doesn't appear until the 1973-75 time frame.

Online Mitch Todd

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #151 on: July 06, 2018, 12:57:47 AM »
Well, here we go... there is more testimony about the Mauser... Is it credible? Sounds credible...

FP: Did you handle that rifle?
RC: Yes, I did. I couldn't give you its name because I don't know foreign rifles. [...]

This is the same guy who said a few years later that he actually saw "Mauser 7.65" stamped into the barrel of the gun. The two stories are inherently contradictory; both can't be right. Do you not get that?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #152 on: July 06, 2018, 01:44:56 AM »
Thanx Walt - but my problem is with this
this is NOT little more than a glimpse

Nov 23 1963
Weitzman FBI Report
Mr. Weitzman described the rifle was found as a 7.65 caliber Mauser action rifle, loads from a five shot clip is locked on the underside of the receiver forward of the trigger guard.
The metal parts of this rifle were of a gun metal color, gray or blue and the rear portion of the bolt was visibly worn.
The wooden portions of this rifle were a dark brown in color and of rough wood apparently having been used or damaged to a considerable extent.
The rifle was equipped with a four power 18 scope of apparent Japanese manufacture. It's also equipped with a thick brown- black leather bandolier type sling

five shot clip
locked on the underside of trigger guard
dark brown in color and of rough wood
rear portion of the bold visibly worn
wooden portions damaged to a considerable extent
four power 18 scope Japanese make
brown-black leather bandolier type strap

 ::) I don't think I could remember all those things on way back; even as a young man
...but if the first affidavit I write is on the 23rd, I'm gonna call over to Day and confirm the caliber


Michael ...This FBI report stinks....They gave Weitzman a Mauser to examine anf then had him describe it as if it was the rifle that was found in the TSBD. 

I don't know what the bastroids were up to .....possible preparing for the eventuality that Lee Oswald's agency would come to his defense and they would have to let him go.  They may have been preparing a cover story that there was also a Mauser found and they were working on tracing that rifle.   

I don' know what the hell was going on ...but I do know they had Weitzman examine and describe a mauser.....  But that doesn't mean the rifle that was found well hidden beneath boxes of books was a mauser.

Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #153 on: July 06, 2018, 02:19:19 AM »
FP: Did you handle that rifle?
RC: Yes, I did. I couldn't give you its name because I don't know foreign rifles. [...]

This is the same guy who said a few years later that he actually saw "Mauser 7.65" stamped into the barrel of the gun. The two stories are inherently contradictory; both can't be right. Do you not get that?

Yes... they seem to be contradictory...
What do we know about Captain Glen King and his testimony about the Mauser? Maybe it's been noted already and I missed it...