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Kennedy vs the CIA
Gary Craig:
--- Quote from: Barry Pollard on July 11, 2018, 10:57:57 PM ---Quick sketch of an average fighter for the southern army; he's forced into service, refusal isn't an option, everyone of his "enemies" is potentially a family member who had to flee because of political beliefs, or a cousin, a friend or a neighbor, so every time he's not being watched he's shooting over their heads and if by chance his commander gets shot, they stop shooting and invite the other side across for a chat and some tea. Good luck winning that "war".
Now here's my question regarding Newman and the above(I haven't read it), does he really believe they were just advisors(does anyone?), does he deal with the reality or not and does he go into the report that NSAM-111 originated from? I'll have to refresh my memory to why but the report/study in the second question has it's own controversy.
Biased, trumped up, one sided, something along those lines.
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"Now here's my question regarding Newman and the above(I haven't read it), does he really believe they were just advisors(does anyone?), does he deal with the reality"
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http://www.jfk-info.com/files.htm
THE KENNEDY-JOHNSON TRANSITION:
THE CASE FOR POLICY REVERSAL
by DR. JOHN M. NEWMAN.
~snip~
"Such arguments blur the crucial distinction between a policy of advising the South Vietnamese army how
to fight the war and a policy using the American army to fight the war. From any perspective, not the
least of which was the Viet Cong's, the difference between the South Vietnamese army and the American
army was not subtle, and neither was the difference between the Special Forces, on the one hand, and the
Marines or 82D Airborne Division, on the other. These differences are fundamental, and to construe a
large increase in advisors as something only slightly less or a little different than brigades and divisions of
ground forces is just nonsense."
~snip~
Barry Pollard:
--- Quote from: Gary Craig on July 13, 2018, 06:33:07 PM ---"Now here's my question regarding Newman and the above(I haven't read it), does he really believe they were just advisors(does anyone?), does he deal with the reality"
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http://www.jfk-info.com/files.htm
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Thanks Gary and just so it's clear I read carefully what you posted before and the above, it's the Newman book I haven't :)
Barry Pollard:
Mitch,
one source for the Diems asking the US to leave was not so secret, a WP interview,
https://books.google.com/books?id=7Z2BCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT138&lpg=PT138&dq=washington+post+nhu+interview&source=bl&ots=lw-RuK_NN_&sig=UiDNpDbLf2jBpIUoFFdCY3tQuho&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=washington%20post%20nhu%20interview&f=false
Note that Rusk complained about the article, so you know it must have been really good.
Mitch Todd:
--- Quote from: Barry Pollard on July 14, 2018, 12:35:10 AM ---Mitch,
one source for the Diems asking the US to leave was not so secret, a WP interview,
https://books.google.com/books?id=7Z2BCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT138&lpg=PT138&dq=washington+post+nhu+interview&source=bl&ots=lw-RuK_NN_&sig=UiDNpDbLf2jBpIUoFFdCY3tQuho&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=washington%20post%20nhu%20interview&f=false
Note that Rusk complained about the article, so you know it must have been really good.
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That's the May 12th Unna interview, is it not? It was Nhu's response to the early Western reactions to the Hue Vesak killings. Even then, he only said the US should withdraw half of the advisor force.
Mitch Todd:
--- Quote from: Richard Rubio on July 13, 2018, 05:28:35 AM ---Outstanding answer. I do know bits of the history here but I could not tie it together. You are a real asset to the forum. I usually, do not believe in just gratuitous compliments but I've read some of your other answers as well. Very knowledgeable and insightful.
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Wow. Thank you! I'm not used to getting compliments on discussion boards, which makes the surprise more welcome and the welcome more surprising.
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