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Online Mitch Todd

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Re: Gary Mack and the about face !
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2018, 05:00:34 AM »
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Gary Mack went from a conspiracy theorist (and making no money) to a lone nut advocate (and getting a full-time job to boot). How anyone can call that fair-minded is beyond me.

There are many good articles about Mack on DiEugenio's site. There's one that critiqued one of those fake assassination shows on Discovery starring Mack.  With a straight face, shooting and editing of the program told obvious lies. Look it up if you don't believe me.

But here's one of my favorite articles on this subject:

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It says a lot about Jim DiEugenio that, in all of that article, there is only one footnote, and that's to a book he wrote himself.

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Offline John Mytton

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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2018, 05:37:20 AM »
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Gary Mack went from a conspiracy theorist (and making no money) to a lone nut advocate (and getting a full-time job to boot). How anyone can call that fair-minded is beyond me.

There are many good articles about Mack on DiEugenio's site. There's one that critiqued one of those fake assassination shows on Discovery starring Mack.  With a straight face, shooting and editing of the program told obvious lies. Look it up if you don't believe me.

But here's one of my favorite articles on this subject:

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How anyone can call that fair-minded is beyond me.

When I started I was a conspiracy theorist but as time went on and I learnt the evidence I realized that my initial conclusion which was based on incomplete information(conspiracy books) needed a re-evaluation.
For instance one example of my conspiracy belief was the "back and to the left" but after some research I found a bullet lacks the mass to drive anyone more than an inch or two and upon close examination of the Zapruder film @312-313 Kennedy and all the resulting matter is pushed forward. The first eyewitnesses interviewed on TV, the Newmans and Zapruder all describe what we see in the Zapruder film and finally after studying the genuine stereoscopic Autopsy photos the injuries to Kennedy's head reinforce a shot from behind.



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Re: Gary Mack and the about face !
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2018, 03:15:11 PM »
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Mack was fair minded, knowledegable, and relied upon the evidence.  My interpretation of his view is that he left open the possibility of a conspiracy (primarily because you can't disprove the negative with 100% certainty) but that there was no credible evidence to support it.

   Is your, "fair minded, Knowledgeable, and Relied upon the Evidence" appraisal Before or After his pushing of the Badgeman & his mis ID of Mumford/McKinnon?
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Re: Gary Mack and the about face !
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2018, 03:38:35 PM »
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Ditto Jim Marrs, Fletcher Prouty and Jim Garrison.

And the only one I had heard of a "million dollar" deal was Vince Bugliosi
...I think he was paid by the word
« Last Edit: July 12, 2018, 03:40:06 PM by Michael Capasse »

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Re: Gary Mack and the about face !
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2018, 03:39:39 PM »
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When I started I was a conspiracy theorist but as time went on and I learnt the evidence I realized that my initial conclusion which was based on incomplete information(conspiracy books) needed a re-evaluation.
For instance one example of my conspiracy belief was the "back and to the left" but after some research I found a bullet lacks the mass to drive anyone more than an inch or two and upon close examination of the Zapruder film @312-313 Kennedy and all the resulting matter is pushed forward. The first eyewitnesses interviewed on TV, the Newmans and Zapruder all describe what we see in the Zapruder film and finally after studying the genuine stereoscopic Autopsy photos the injuries to Kennedy's head reinforce a shot from behind.



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          The validity of the stolen autopsy photos currently displayed in the public arena can hardly be described as "Genuine".  "Kinkos" Groden continues cranking them out on a daily basis.

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Re: Gary Mack and the about face !
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2018, 03:54:17 PM »
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Gary Mack went from a conspiracy theorist (and making no money) to a lone nut advocate (and getting a full-time job to boot). How anyone can call that fair-minded is beyond me.

There are many good articles about Mack on DiEugenio's site. There's one that critiqued one of those fake assassination shows on Discovery starring Mack.  With a straight face, shooting and editing of the program told obvious lies. Look it up if you don't believe me.

But here's one of my favorite articles on this subject:

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Mack wasn't a lone nut advocate; he believed up to his death that Oswald did shoot JFK but that he had help. In other words, Mack believed in a conspiracy albeit with a small or lower case "c".


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Re: Gary Mack and the about face !
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2018, 06:07:55 PM »
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Mark (and Richard):

I totally agree with your comments, and thank you for your kind remarks about Gary. Gary was a good friend, whom I'd known for many, many years, and a man of absolute integrity. He told you what he thought, and it was up to you as to whether you agreed with him or not. He and I didn't always agree, but when that happened, we could agree to differ and move on, like grown-up, mature adults. The manner in which he was vilified by people - many of whom had never met him, spoken to him, or even corresponded with him - in the the immediate aftermath of his untimely passing was among the most disgusting things I'd ever witnessed, and besmirched much of the so-called "research community" for ever.

RIP Gary.

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...and when Mark Lane died we saw the exact same thing happen from the other side.

No, you certainly did not.

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Gary Mack and the about face !
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2018, 06:17:07 PM »
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Gary Mack went from a conspiracy theorist (and making no money) to a lone nut advocate (and getting a full-time job to boot).

I always laugh when I see another make a comment on a subject which they very obviously have no idea about the subject they're addressing.

Gary Mack certainly was not a "lone nut advocate".

Perhaps you should educate yourself a little better on the subject before any further comments on it.  Just a thought.

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Re: Gary Mack and the about face !
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2018, 06:33:45 PM »
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When I started I was a conspiracy theorist but as time went on and I learnt the evidence I realized that my initial conclusion which was based on incomplete information(conspiracy books) needed a re-evaluation.
For instance one example of my conspiracy belief was the "back and to the left" but after some research I found a bullet lacks the mass to drive anyone more than an inch or two and upon close examination of the Zapruder film @312-313 Kennedy and all the resulting matter is pushed forward. The first eyewitnesses interviewed on TV, the Newmans and Zapruder all describe what we see in the Zapruder film and finally after studying the genuine stereoscopic Autopsy photos the injuries to Kennedy's head reinforce a shot from behind.

JohnM

The single most powerful thing that got me really interested in the assassination was when I found out that JBC was seated somewhat lower and to the left of Kennedy.

A huge 'eureka' moment for me.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2018, 06:38:25 PM by Bill Chapman »

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Re: Gary Mack and the about face !
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2018, 11:17:40 PM »
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No, you certainly did not.

You obviously didn't read the threads on this very forum when Lane died.

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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2018, 11:17:40 PM »