The Mystery of the Roll Call

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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: The Mystery of the Roll Call
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2019, 04:22:30 AM »
This was a Dallas News opinion article written 50 years later. No one was interviewed and said that.How would anyone have known that he was  missing and the only person who was..if there wasn't a gathering of all the employees from all the offices of all the companies that occupied the building? Gee we guess so. There was no roll call.
 Another 'Roll Call' thread grew here... https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?topic=625.20
Notice the absurd made up conclusions from the WR defenders ::)

Even though Karen Westbrook mis-identified self-described American Indian Stella Mae Jacob, and her two colleagues Gloria Holt and Sharon Simmons in the Z-film as "... uh ... probably Carol Reed, Gloria Calvert (sic), and me, Karen Westbrook!", she said in her same 2017 Sixth Floor Museum interview that shortly after she ran back into the TSBD there was a roll call, so since it was not a from-behind Z-film-based recollection, she was probably right about that.

Maybe.

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The Mystery of the Roll Call
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2019, 05:12:12 AM »
 
Even though Karen Westbrook mis-identified self-described American Indian Stella Mae Jacob, and her two colleagues Gloria Holt and Sharon Simmons in the Z-film as "... uh ... probably Carol Reed, Gloria Calvert (sic), and me, Karen Westbrook!", she said in her same 2017 Sixth Floor Museum interview that shortly after she ran back into the TSBD, there was a roll call, so since that was not a Z-film-based recollection, she was probably right about that. Maybe.
I am not familiar with these other witnesses.
They worked for Roy Truly? Did they submit testimony concerning a roll call? Truly is the source of a missing Oswald. He did not  mention a roll call nor was he asked about one in his deposition before the WC. This roll call stuff apparently [out of the blue]  became part of the official narrative and was accepted with everything else as gospel.
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Mr. BALL. Now, what did you tell Chief Lumpkin when you came down from the roof of the building?
Mr. TRULY. When I noticed this boy was missing, I told Chief Lumpkin that "We have a man here that's missing." I said, "It may not mean anything, but he isn't here." I first called down to the other warehouse and had Mr. Akin pull the application of the boy so I could get--quickly get his address in Irving and his general description, so I could be more accurate than I would be.
Mr. BALL. Was he the only man missing?
Mr. TRULY. The only one I noticed at that time.
Mentioned in another post... Truly had just seen Oswald in the lunchroom and then went upstairs so why would it seemingly dawn on him that all of a sudden Lee had vanished to parts unknown? Did he look for him again? Doesn't say. Did he have someone else search for him? Didn't say. He was compelled though.. to go and report him to the police..so he said.
Obviously, something else was going on. After 5 or 6 months of preparation that is all he said and that is officially all we have.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/truly1.htm
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/truly2.htm
 

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: The Mystery of the Roll Call
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2019, 05:29:55 AM »
I am not familiar with these other witnesses.

Dear Jerry,

Why don't you google [  "Stella Mae Jacob" JFK  ]?

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: The Mystery of the Roll Call
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2019, 05:57:59 AM »
I believe the so called "roll call" is a combination of the following.

Mr. STERN - Then you got inside the building and what did you do?
Mr. SORRELS - I asked for the manager, and I was directed to Mr. Truly. He was standing there.
I went up and identified myself to him. I said, "I want to get a stenographer, and we would like to have you put down the names and addresses of every employee of the building, in the building."

Mr. STERN - What was your purpose in asking for a list of the employees of the building?
Mr. SORRELS - Because I knew that they would have to be interviewed. I was trying to establish at that time without any delay, who all was in that building or was employed there, because I knew they would have to be talked to later.
In other words, I was looking for someone that saw something.
Mr. STERN - You were looking for potential witnesses?
Mr. SORRELS - Yes, sir.

Sorrels arrived just before 1pm. His actions seem perfectly reasonable.

We also have the report by Senkel that after the shells were found but before the rifle was found (about 1.15pm) Fritz ordered him to take all employees who had been on the 6th floor that day downtown for questioning. So some employees were "in line" on the first floor providing details etc after 1pm and Senkel was determining the 6th floor workers. Presumably he got that information from Truly and or Shelley. Not hard to see that the following individuals would come under attention. Oswald, who had been noticed by Truly in the building after the shooting but was now long gone and Givens, who had been seen by Truly leaving the building well before the shooting.

Others of interest were, Frazier and Norman, who had both been on the 6th floor but was not taken down to City Hall with the flooring crew and Dougherty for reasons unknown as they too fit the criteria for making affidavits as per Fritz's instruction to Senkel. Presumably both were still present in the TSBD at that time or they would have been reported missing too, same as Oswald.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The Mystery of the Roll Call
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2019, 01:22:17 PM »
Even though Karen Westbrook mis-identified self-described American Indian Stella Mae Jacob, and her two colleagues Gloria Holt and Sharon Simmons in the Z-film as "... uh ... probably Carol Reed, Gloria Calvert (sic), and me, Karen Westbrook!", she said in her same 2017 Sixth Floor Museum interview that shortly after she ran back into the TSBD there was a roll call, so since it was not a from-behind Z-film-based recollection, she was probably right about that.

Maybe.

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Offline Mike Orr

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Re: The Mystery of the Roll Call
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2019, 01:22:31 AM »
HG , it would do you good to sit back and take this whole " Roll Call " for what it was intended to be ! This forum is for all of us and we don't need anyone prodding us along to get to the gist of it all .

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The Mystery of the Roll Call
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2019, 01:58:03 AM »
Mike...Howie hasn't been here since the 1st of the year. Maybe he put us all on ignore ::)