Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"

[Steve Howsley]

You left out the most probable location: the packing bench at the depository.

According to the evidence.

Confirming you have no clue about the evidence so why bother posting your rants in the first place when you have nothing to contribute?

One thing about you kooks that is consistent across various sites is your hatred for the opinions of other people who see things differently. Par for the course.

I did say "or elsewhere" which can involve your preferred place if you like. I don't really care. If you'd actually think more broadly you might consider the possibility that the materials for the bag making were taken home so the bag could be constructed without the eyes of his coworkers and office staff watching him 'steal' materials for what was obviously his private use.


I think you might be the clueless one here.

[Steve Howsley]

No and it proves you didn't read my OP about the bag making process.

Like I said, take it to the Bag thread.

[Steve Howsley]

FBI testimony suggests the tape was most likely pulled and applied at the packing table based on the working of the dispenser.

Thanks for reconfirming your ignorance concerning the evidence.

I suggest you confine your rants to PM when entertaining your inbred mates at the troll farm.

You seem to be a pretty nasty piece of work Tom. I hope that's not the case. Is it because I think Oswald is not only guilty as sin but that he was a despicable husband and father? Tough if that offends you.

First of all, according to you the FBI say 'most likely'. That's not a definite in my book. Could the tape be dispensed then taken away for use hours later? Packing tapes I've used since the 1970s could be used in the way. They don't adhere quite as well and can be a little messy sticking to itself but it certainly can be done. Any proof that the tape in question was different?

Anyway take it to the Bag thread.

[Howard Gee]

West, did not notice any heavy tape dispenser missing nor Lee anywhere near the wrapping tables.

You pull out the tape, it becomes wet and sticky. You have to use it straight away.

The tape and paper were forensically 100 % identical between CE 677 and CE 142. The tape had the same tiny marks on it as well.

Lee was a terrible husband no question about that. Did he leave a rifle in a blanket knowing that Ruth's children and his eldest daughter played in the garage? Worse still, Marina never said a word about it to Ruth either.

Too bad for you that the tape can be taken off a roll without applying it immediately. Which is why the FBI said 'most likely' instead of 'definitely'.

Also, despite what you suggest, the paper and tape in the packing room were not under 24 hour guard and your hero could have constructed the bag without being seen when Truly and the paper and tape police were eating lunch or taking a dump.

Even worse for you is Saint Oz's prints magically appearing on the bag you insist Studebaker created.

Take your "I have a hypothesis about a paper bag, Fritz and Wade sent an innocent young man to his death." garbage back to the 200 page waste of bandwith, where it belongs.

I'll be happy to continue demolishing your 'hypothesis' there.

We're busy discussing what a murdering, lying, creep, POS, your innocent young hero was.

[Ray Mitcham]

Too bad for you that the tape can be taken off a roll without applying it immediately. Which is why the FBI said 'most likely' instead of 'definitely'.

Howard, please read what Tony actually said. The tape had to be dispensed via the wetting roller which made marks on the paper. The marks were on the tape therefore the tape went through the wetting roller. If it hadn't it would't have had the marks that the wetting roller made. Capisce?

Also, despite what you suggest, the paper and tape in the packing room were not under 24 hour guard and your hero could have constructed the bag without being seen when Truly and the paper and tape police were eating lunch or taking a dump.

The tape minder said he never left his post even for lunch.

Even worse for you is Saint Oz's prints magically appearing on the bag you insist Studebaker created.

Ask yourself, could Fritz have handed the bag that Studebaker created to Oswald?

Take your "I have a hypothesis about a paper bag, Fritz and Wade sent an innocent young man to his death." garbage back to the 200 page waste of bandwith, where it belongs.

It is a matter of record that  the DPD sent a number of innocent men to their death.

[Walt Cakebread]

Oswald went to pick up his rifle. It's possible, as others have speculated, that he wasn't 100% committed to his plan to kill the Pres if Marina agreed to go back to him. We will never know just as we will never know if he made the bag in the garage, at his room the night before or elsewhere before bringing it to Irving.

You think he was a nice family man? I don't think so. He beat his wife, had a stash of money but offered little to Marina to support her needs (including simple health care) and those of the children. Even if Marina had agreed to go back to him and if he abandoned his plan he was still a walking time bomb and would IMO have erupted at some point but that might have simply been killing Hosty or a cop or two and we wouldn't be talking about the scumbag today.

I'd think he was rapidly losing his sanity. He was a deadbeat and a loser who felt the world owed him something just as his mother taught him. He wasn't a patsy so much as an insecure mama's boy.

Mr Howsley....You are exposing yourself as a fool.   You've constructed a villain to blame for a crime that rational reasoning and commonsense should lead you to understand was not committed in the manner as the official "investigation"  has concluded.   

It is a FACT that a man who did not fit the description of Lee Oswald was observed behind the sixth floor windows of the TSBD prior to, and during the shooting.  Several eyewitnesses saw a man who was estimated to weigh 175 pounds and who was dressed in light colored khaki clothing with a hunting ( sniper) rifle behind the windows of the sixth floor. 

Lee Oswald who weighed 131 pounds was dressed in a reddish brown shirt and dark gray trousers at the time that John Kennedy was murdered.   Lee Oswald didn't even own any light colored khaki clothing....

You cannot refute these simple elementary FACTS.....so perhaps you should pause and give a little more thought to the ideas you are espousing....  because only an irrational fool would continue to babble nonsense and make a fool of himself.   

[Steve Howsley]

Mr Howsley....You are exposing yourself as a fool.   You've constructed a villain to blame for a crime that rational reasoning and commonsense should lead you to understand was not committed in the manner as the official "investigation"  has concluded.   

It is a FACT that a man who did not fit the description of Lee Oswald was observed behind the sixth floor windows of the TSBD prior to, and during the shooting.  Several eyewitnesses saw a man who was estimated to weigh 175 pounds and who was dressed in light colored khaki clothing with a hunting ( sniper) rifle behind the windows of the sixth floor. 

Lee Oswald who weighed 131 pounds was dressed in a reddish brown shirt and dark gray trousers at the time that John Kennedy was murdered.   Lee Oswald didn't even own any light colored khaki clothing....

You cannot refute these simple elementary FACTS.....so perhaps you should pause and give a little more thought to the ideas you are espousing....  because only an irrational fool would continue to babble nonsense and make a fool of himself.   

Walt, I'm sorry but I've only read up to WF47 (Walt's Fabrications #47) so can't spare the time to look for flaws in your post. Once I've got through the complete list I'll get to the more recent stuff.