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James Leon Simmons.... Overpass Witness
Mitch Todd:
--- Quote from: John Iacoletti on July 18, 2018, 10:47:49 PM ---Well that clears it up. :D
Are you sure it wasn't actually a smidgen?
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It's just small enough an indefinite value to keep the pointlessly obtuse pointless and obtuse, apparently.
Barry Pollard:
--- Quote from: John Iacoletti on July 18, 2018, 10:55:45 PM ---Somebody better tell Sam Holland, Lee Bowers, Richard Dodd, and James Simmons that what they saw and smelled was fall foliage.
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I'd tell Simmons that in Bell it looks like he was waving or clapping at a dead Kennedy and since he was stood 10' south of Holland I'd call him out too.
"Stop waving and duck you sucker". No?
Tall guy in dungerees in Altgens/Dillard and in same position in Bell.
I don't put Bowers in the same league, whether he saw something or not is much more vague, if he did it seems he was never sure what it was, that makes him more credible to me.
Perhaps something, perhaps nothing but no wild claims( except seeing the bike cop ride up).
Watch those interviews from Lane, Holland and Bowers come across okay but the others oh boy, Simmons cannot even take direction he got tranfixed with the camera lens(that was the best take) and what was Dodd on? "Can we have your full attention please Mr. Dodd?" Wheel tappers, not the brightest bulbs.
Anyone who think's think I'm being too harsh can ask me about Jackson, Couch and Brennan, I have theories about them also and how they're all full of it.
Mrs Cabell smelt gunpowder, of course she did, she said so so she must have, Dillard too, all of them, I really believe them, no honestly I do.
I also believe(no not that), that people looked at the knoll and thought " what a good place for an ambush" before the motorade arrived, then when the shooting happens, that's exactly where they came from(you know her?). Was it Allman who claimed that that all those open windows on the TSBD looked dodgy BEFORE the motorcade arrived, of course he did, I believe them all, wonderful intelligent people with no reason to get involved.
Find out what Darnell said/remembered, it's so refreshing, no wild claims and no added extras, just for a change.
Bill Brown:
--- Quote from: John Iacoletti on July 18, 2018, 10:55:45 PM ---Somebody better tell Sam Holland, Lee Bowers, Richard Dodd, and James Simmons that what they saw and smelled was fall foliage.
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Lee Bowers does not belong in that group. Why include him?
John Iacoletti:
--- Quote from: Mitch Todd on July 19, 2018, 01:15:54 AM ---It's just small enough an indefinite value to keep the pointlessly obtuse pointless and obtuse, apparently.
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In other words, when you said "For them, shots from the GK would come from the same direction as the TSBD", you didn't really actually mean "same direction".
Barry Pollard:
I have real trouble seeing members of the public pinpointing those noises based only on the sound, don't care where they were stood, I have trouble with it, big smiles and still clapping and waving.
Ready had something though, reacted fast and when we see him, is looking at steet level, no coincidence he's looking back IMO, watch him on Houston, he looking around and up, alert and don't forget he also went to jump off and run to Kennedy but was stopped by Roberts.
Bowers never confirmed that "commotion" was behind the fence, not to Lane, not in that film, what happens in RTJ at that point is called "artistic liscence".
Watch the scene with Price and more or less the same thing happened. Lane hands Price what he calls on film "a map used by the WC".
But what we see after the edit, is a familiar photo and do we see a mark on it from Price(hard to make out especially compared to Bowers' big "X")?
Next two lines of dialogue were interesting.
Lane said "you put a mark behind the fence where it meets the overpass [around 80' feet from Bowers' "X"] then listen to what Price says next, it's like he's suddenly in court.
That "X" is not from Bowers at all btw, it's clearly generated by the filmmaker, why?
Note what Simmons marked also, that is genuinly "a map used by the WC" but Price and Bowers own marking of that same map is not shown at all.
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