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James Leon Simmons.... Overpass Witness
Jerry Freeman:
Rob Caprio mentions this witness in his Statements That Sink series #123....
There were no replies to that thread, I wonder why?
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,419.msg9208/topicseen.html#msg9208
Mr Simmons explicitly states that the first shot came from the fence/trees area on the grassy knoll and then he saw JFK start to slump over.
Other than that, I can find no other posts on him.
James Leon Simmons.... Overpass Witness
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKCo3wnMVa8
He said the FBI completely changed his statement.
This is what was published in the Warren Report.
Barry Pollard:
Since I don't have the evidence to hand you can dismiss this but still, fwiw,
no motorcycle cop went up the slope on his bike and the one cop that actually tried to, did not then head for the TSBD, that's a blantant alteration and it happens in at least two other similar statements and IIRC one was also taken by the same interviewer. So according to the feds three men atop the underpass saw the cop ride up and then {u] head for the TSBD[/u] (Winborns's statement however is a rather accurate description of what Hargis did). Also note how they descibe where Simmons saw smoke.
Robert Jackson says the exact same thing about the bike cop in much later appearances, despite only getting out of his own vehicle to follow this same cop up the knoll and had no interest in going in the TSBD where he claimed he saw another one run into.
Now this is what I don't have the most, there is a stabilized gif of the Bell film showing the men on the OP and some of them(three at least) are "clearly" waving or clapping at the limo, one of them I suspect is Simmons, a tall suspect in perhaps dungerees.
Dillard's last photo in the plaza shows both Simmons and Holland still up there a minute later, the latter having moved to his right(and now stood next to Simmons) probably to get a better view up the street.
Bowers was another one who claimed to see the bike cop ride up the grass, despite it being impossible to see from his position, to me it seems obvious he's heard it from one of the others, that is they've all had time to sit around and listen and compare stories. All these men should have been seperated and questioned on the spot. "...Anything you don't say today and later rely on(for Oswald's defence)..."
Denis Pointing:
--- Quote from: Rob Caprio on June 08, 2018, 09:45:47 PM ---The fact that he can't be refuted easily Jerry is why the LNers ignored this topic. They only respond to things that they can easily obfuscate.
Thanks for reading my post.
--- End quote ---
Actually, the reason LNs and CTs don't reply is that we can't be bothered with you. Trying to discuss anything with you is akin to trying to hold a discussion with a Jeahover witness or a flat-earther.
Jerry Freeman:
'Discussion' wouldn't be necessarily vital to any response.
On record is the workers statements along with several other spectators- lending credence- that a shot or shots came from behind the fence.
This revelation was completely ignored by the Warren Commission.
Absolutely criminal.
Matt Grantham:
--- Quote from: Barry Pollard on June 09, 2018, 01:31:25 PM ---Since I don't have the evidence to hand you can dismiss this but still, fwiw,
no motorcycle cop went up the slope on his bike and the one cop that actually tried to, did not then head for the TSBD, that's a blantant alteration and it happens in at least two other similar statements and IIRC one was also taken by the same interviewer. So according to the feds three men atop the underpass saw the cop ride up and then {u] head for the TSBD[/u] (Winborns's statement however is a rather accurate description of what Hargis did). Also note how they descibe where Simmons saw smoke.
Robert Jackson says the exact same thing about the bike cop in much later appearances, despite only getting out of his own vehicle to follow this same cop up the knoll and had no interest in going in the TSBD where he claimed he saw another one run into.
Now this is what I don't have the most, there is a stabilized gif of the Bell film showing the men on the OP and some of them(three at least) are "clearly" waving or clapping at the limo, one of them I suspect is Simmons, a tall suspect in perhaps dungerees.
Dillard's last photo in the plaza shows both Simmons and Holland still up there a minute later, the latter having moved to his right(and now stood next to Simmons) probably to get a better view up the street.
Bowers was another one who claimed to see the bike cop ride up the grass, despite it being impossible to see from his position, to me it seems obvious he's heard it from one of the others, that is they've all had time to sit around and listen and compare stories. All these men should have been seperated and questioned on the spot. "...Anything you don't say today and later rely on(for Oswald's defence)..."
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Is there some significance if he rode up the knoll or not? Is the proof he did not the Z film? What was blocking Bowers view Your idea that Bowers? lied about what he saw was because he talked to the others crosses the line of speculative entitlement imo
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