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The Limo Bullet Fragments....
Howard Gee:
--- Quote from: Walt Cakebread on May 15, 2018, 03:20:00 PM ---"more than just slivers were found in the limo, regardless of what Hoover told LBJ on 11/23/63."
Oh really, Howie? So you think that simply because you lack the vocabulary that would enable you to understand that Hoover used a different word to describe the bullet fragments and he referred to the fragments as "slivers "......Then there were more pieces of a bullet found in the limo. Please enlighten me about these pieces of a bullet(s) .....
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Walt, I'm not sure you're capable of being enlightened.
If you want to insist that the two large fragments found in the limo were merely slivers because that's what Hoover said on 11/23/63, go right ahead.
I understand how devastating the fragment evidence is to Saint Oz's defense team, and can't blame you for trying to deny it's existence.
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: Howard Gee on May 15, 2018, 04:30:48 PM ---Walt, I'm not sure you're capable of being enlightened.
If you want to insist that the two large fragments found in the limo were merely slivers because that's what Hoover said on 11/23/63, go right ahead.
I understand how devastating the fragment evidence is to Saint Oz's defense team, and can't blame you for trying to deny it's existence.
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I understand how devastating the fragment evidence is
In a telephone conversation with LBJ on 11/23/63 J.Edgar Hoover told LBJ..."We have (fragments) what we call slivers, which are not very valuable in the identification."
It seems to me that J. Edgar's statement to LBJ is far more devastating to your contention .... J. Edgar Hoover clearly told Lyin Bastroid Johnson that the fragments were NOT very valuable for identification purposes.....
John Iacoletti:
--- Quote from: Joe Elliott on May 14, 2018, 02:22:12 AM ---Theory 1: A bullet fragmented into three. One fragment struck the windshield and cracked it and bounced back into the limousine. This fragment was found in the limousine. A second fragment from the same bullet dented the windshield frame and bounced back into the limousine. This fragment was also found in the limousine. While both the found fragments only account for 60% of the mass of a bullet, a third fragment must have just cleared the windshield and sun visors and wounded Mr. Tague.
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Unfortunately, Tague said there was another shot after he was hit.
--- Quote ---While one bullet might fragment, causing one or more fragments to just hit the limousine, and one or more fragments to just clear the limousine, this is unlikely to occur twice, which Theory 2 requires.
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Why is this "unlikely to occur twice"?
--- Quote --- Also, we have reason to believe only one bullet would fragment. We only have one wound that would cause such a bullet to fragment, JFK?s head wound.
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How do you know there was only one head wound?
John Iacoletti:
--- Quote from: Joe Elliott on May 14, 2018, 04:21:13 AM ---These ?other guys? were Secret Service agents.
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Really? I think it would have been news to hospital corpsman Mills that he was a Secret Service agent.
But was crime scene evidence collection even within the purview of the Secret Service?
--- Quote ---Reasonable people have theories. Unreasonable people have established truths in their heads that they cannot seriously question.
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You mean like the idea that Oswald did it?
John Iacoletti:
--- Quote from: Joe Elliott on May 14, 2018, 04:50:41 AM ---It was, of course, impossible to determine that the two fragments came from the same bullet or from two different bullets. But two different bullets each leaving a fragment that stays in the limousine, while the other fragment leaves the limousine, is patently unlikely for the following reasons.
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How exactly do you know that any part of any head shot bullet "left the limousine"?
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