We both agree that Willis said two different things that are inconsistent. He said that Jackie turned her head suddenly from looking left to looking right at the moment of the first shot AND he said that the first shot was so close in time to the exposure of his z202 photo that the loud sound caused him to press the shutter. Those are conflicting statements because Jackie does not suddenly turn from looking left to looking right just before z202.
Re: Jackie does not suddenly turn from looking left to looking right just before z202.
Wow. You're so wedded to your pet theory dogma that you would deny the only place where, in Willis' words":
"Mrs. Kennedy was likewise smiling and
facing more to my side of the street."
"When the first shot was fired, her head seemed
to just
snap in that direction ... when the first shot
was fired, she
turned to the right toward him"
Above: Three frames (incl. two that are clear) showing when Mrs. Kennedy began her rightward head turn, the head turn described by Willis as a reaction to hearing the first shot.
I was trying to resolve that conflict with the rest of the evidence. The rest of the evidence puts the first shot after z191 so his perception that Jackie turned her head in response to the first shot is false.
The "rest of the evidence" meaning your subjective interpretation of what the witnesses said to conform it to your theory's "need" for a ca.Z200 first shot.
I suggested that it may have been his impression because when the car passed him, Jackie was looking left and in the photo she is looking right.
You, on the other hand, want to take this reference to Jackie turning to argue that the rest of the evidence is false,
Wrong. I'm using non-subjective indications, and near-to-the-event and verifiable eyewitness observation to counter your subjective interpretation to satisfy a wacko pet theory.
including his recollection that the sound of the first shot caused him to reflexively press the shutter.
Now that's what he was wrong about. Willis had a slide set he was marketing. How many white lies and exaggerated product claims has Donald T|rump made on his way to becoming rich and reaching the White House?
Willis said that the shot caused him to lean forward. He is leaning forward in his photo (z202) but he is not leaning forward at z193. That is pretty sudden.
There is no change in Kennedy's body posture between Z193 and Z202. There is glare on his shirt front in Z202 that might be making you think you see some sort of posture change.
Right: clear frames morphed | | | | |
Willis, speaking of events that could be related to the Z170s:
"when the first shot was fired, she turned to the right
toward him and he more or less slumped forward"
His chest appears to be turned about 60 degrees to the right in z193.
I think your theory's requirement for that is making you see that.
Unforturnately we do not see Ready after z207. But between z198 and z207 he goes from having his right hand on the hand hold to having it down by his left thigh and his torso has turned from a forward position to about 30 degrees to the right and his head has turned as well. That is 1/2 a second.
Z200 (clearer than Z199) | ] | |
One would expect that if Ready's torso really turned 30? between Z200 and Z207, there would a more significant change in his tie and handkerchief position. The right side "expands" because his right arm fills the area.
His right hand is at waist level in Z207. If his head has turned, it's very slightly. He seems to be holding his head up more between Z200 and Z207.
That is where he begins to turn around to look rearward, as we see him looking in z255.
But you can't say if Ready continued to delay turning rearward after Z207. Only that he achieves his goal by Z255.
Possibly. The point is that he keeps his right hand on the handhold so he is not preparing to turn rearward.
First give him a moment to decide to turn rearward. A good agent would check to see if the President was alright before deciding to remove his attention away from the man he was assigned to protect.
He can't turn his head rearward without turning his shoulders and to do that he has to release the right hand from the handhold. The fact that he keeps his hand on the handhold up to z199 means that his z165-9 head turn is not a turn to look rearward. It is a turn to look forward and to the right.
Or... he's briefly checking on the President and the crowd nearest the President before committing to a full turn and not paying attention to what's ahead. Also Ready arguably said he didn't look behind until after he heard more than one shot:
"I heard what appeared to be fire crackers going off from my position.
I immediately turned to my right rear trying to locate the source but
was not able to determine the exact location."
Have you read the article she wrote for the Dallas Morning News a few hours after the assassination? That is what she said. She said they acknowledged their cheers.
So where in the Zapruder film does Mrs. Kennedy turn towards Woodward and acknowledge her cheers?
Why do you think the Kennedy's would not have heard them? You weren't there. She was.
How does Woodward know that her cheers were heard over the crowd by the Kennedys?
Not a single witness has said that the sound of the motorcade prevented them from hearing people speak. Nellie had just spoken to JFK as they rounded the turn and he responded and both heard each other. Woodward said she shouted and they turned toward her and waved and smiled at them.
LOL! Some comparison. Nellie was a few feet from Kennedy and I belive he might have leaned her way to hear her. Woodward was dozens of feet away, and more so if her interaction with the President occurred before the Zapruder film began at Z133.
Please explain. I speak English not pseudo-techie. I say that JFK was midway between the lamppost and the Thornton sign at z195. Where do you say that JFK was positioned at z195?
You've got the area between the Thornton sign and the lamppost all wrong. A map is 2D while a photo is typically oblique.
Watch the Secret Service film from about 10:24 and you can see that JFK is visible from Oswald's position throughout the entire time he passes beneath the tree branches. No problem tracking at all:
Maybe the gunman did have extremely low-contrast vision, like the film.
Interesting how you ferret out things to support your theory. It's as if the mechanics of your screwball theory pre-determine what you mine from research.
Kennedy doesn't react for two seconds? He is obviously reacting before he appears from behind the Stemmons sign.
Hmmm. How is the President "reacting" in Z225?
His hands appear to redirect in Z226, Z227 is too blurred, and in Z228 he's exhibiting a pronounced slump. But in Z225 he's not exhibiting a reaction that I can see.
The HSCA concluded he was beginning a reaction BEFORE he disappeared behind the sign. I can't tell for sure.
They thought Kennedy had turned towards his wife as he went behind the sign. But clearer frames later showed Kennedy's right fingers (that are between him and Zapruder) are making his head seem in profile when it wasn't.
You seem to be able to see that he is not reacting when he is behind the sign.
Sounds like a CT demanding "proof" through time-travel. True colors?