Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2018, 12:31:49 AM »
actually...he can't

The Benavides shells (which the cops couldn't even agree on whether there were 2 or 3 of them) were marked by officer Poe, who couldn't find his initials on the shells that ended up in evidence.  [cue another excuse from Jim Leavelle make 30 years later]

The Davis shells were were not found by officers at the scene (neither were the Benavides shells for that matter), but rather were just handed to police officers.  They could have come from anywhere.  The Davises also could not identify the shells in evidence as the same ones they gave to officers.

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2018, 08:31:59 PM »
I see you already have problems keeping track of what you wrote in your OP.

I asked for chain of possession for all the shells and you start babbling about the Davis girls.

Can you or can you not list the chain of possession for the shells?

You're not too bright, are you?

The two Davis shells were linked, through ballistics, to Oswald's revolver to the exclusion of any other weapon.  The chain of possession for these two shells is clear and perfectly intact.

Any issue (if there are any) with the chain of possession of the two Poe shells does not change the fact that the two Davis shells convict Oswald.

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2018, 08:40:16 PM »
McDonald is quoted as saying that the firing pin failed when Oswald tried to shot him in the theater Are you saying he is incorrect??

Let's start at the beginning.  Cite McDonald.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2018, 09:27:05 PM »
You are asking him to make case against the chain of possession when the chain of possession has not been established Not surprising that you have not got an answer from CT's because its irrational

What's irrational is bitching about a lack of a chain of possession while not showing where the break in the chain is.

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2018, 09:30:41 PM »
You forgot the witness who got the best look at Tippit's killer and whose description of the murderer doesn't

match a photo taken of LHO while in DPD custody on 11/22/63.

Testimony Of Domingo Benavides

Mr. BELIN - Where were you when your vehicle stopped?
Mr. BENAVIDES - About 15 foot, just directly across the street and maybe a car length away from the police car.

~snip~

Mr. Belin: Let me ask you now, I would like you to relate again the action of the man with the gun as you saw him now.

Mr. Benavides: As I saw him, I really--I mean really got a good view of the man after the bullets were fired he had just turned. He was just turning away........

~snip~

Mr. BENAVIDES - I remember the back of his head seemed like his hairline was sort of--looked like his hairline sort of went square instead of tapered off. and he looked like he needed a haircut for about 2 weeks, but his hair didn't taper off, it kind of went down and squared off and made his head look fiat in back.

~snip~




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You forgot the witness who got the best look at Tippit's killer...

No.  It could easily be argued that each of the Davis girls and Scoggins got better looks at the killer than did Benavides.

Barbara Davis:  Picked Oswald out of a lineup.

Virginia Davis:  Picked Oswald out of a lineup.

William Scoggins:  Picked Oswald out of a lineup.

Domingo Benavides:  Decided that he did not get a good enough look at the killer to attend a lineup.


Duh.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2018, 09:33:40 PM »
"He can bitch and holler he wants to, but that's the man I saw running from the scene." - William Scoggins

(Jim Leavelle interview with Dale Myers)


Bill Brown believes things that witnesses said 30 years later, except for those times when he doesn't.

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2018, 09:35:52 PM »

TESTIMONY OF TED CALLAWAY

~snip~

Mr. BALL. He was crossing Patton?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Was that to the south or the north of the taxicab? Closer to you than the taxicab?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Was he running or walking?
Mr. CALLAWAY. He was running.

~snip~

Mr. BALL. About what distance was he away from you--the closest that he ever was to you?
Mr. CALLAWAY. About 56 feet.
Mr. BALL. You measured that, did you?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Last Saturday morning?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Measured it with a tape measure?

~snip~

So what?  Is fifty-six feet supposed to be some great, insurmountable distance?  Lame.

Any golfer realizes that a distance less than nineteen yards is no great distance at all.