Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1869 on: August 29, 2020, 01:29:49 PM »
This doesn't even address the obvious... that Oswald was not close enough to Tippit to have blood "splattered" on his clothes, anyway.
A typical straw argument. The type of 'research' I expected.
How would you or anyone else know how close the shooter was?
A coup d' gras' shot at close range to the head----The police automatically postulated that it would not have been close enough to make it worth their while to examine for blood splatter?
Reverse investigation...accuse someone and then apply what didn't happen  :-\

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1870 on: August 31, 2020, 04:11:01 AM »
If Oswald had none of Tippit's blood on his clothing, then what?  Would that somehow prove that Oswald therefore did not shoot Tippit?  You yourself just said the shooter " might probably" have had blood splattered on his clothes.  Your own words imply that it's hardly definitive.  So, what would it mean if there was no blood on Oswald's clothes?

This doesn't even address the obvious... that Oswald was not close enough to Tippit to have blood "splattered" on his clothes, anyway.

You could have just said "no".

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1871 on: August 31, 2020, 04:12:18 AM »
A typical straw argument. The type of 'research' I expected.
How would you or anyone else know how close the shooter was?
A coup d' gras' shot at close range to the head----The police automatically postulated that it would not have been close enough to make it worth their while to examine for blood splatter?
Reverse investigation...accuse someone and then apply what didn't happen  :-\

The "coup-de-grace" shot wasn't a thing until Jack Tatum reported it 15 years after the fact.  If he was actually there to begin with...

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1872 on: August 31, 2020, 06:49:43 AM »
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Mrs. DAVIS. I told the man who had brought us down there.
Mr. BALL. What did you tell him
Mrs. DAVIS. That I thought number 2 was the man that I saw.
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Representative FORD. You saw him take the shells out of the gun?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir; he was shaking them.
Representative FORD. He was shaking them?
Mrs. DAVIS. He was shaking them. I didn't see him actually use his hand to take them out. I mean he was sort of shaking them out.
Representative FORD. Did you find this one bullet at the point where you saw him shake the gun?
Mrs. DAVIS. No, sir; it was around the side of the house.
Representative FORD. About how many feet?
Mrs. DAVIS. I don't know. Not too far.
Representative FORD. But he had moved from the one point to where you found the bullets?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Representative FORD. Yes.
Mrs. DAVIS. That is where they started looking for it.
Representative FORD. I meant the shells rather than the bullets.
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Was he dressed the same in the lineup as he was when you saw him running across the lawn?
Mrs. DAVIS. All except he didn't have a black coat on when I saw him in the lineup.
Mr. BALL. Did he have a coat on when you saw him?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. What color coat?
Mrs. DAVIS. A dark coat.
Mr. BALL. Now, did you recognize him from his face or from his clothes when you saw him in the lineup?
Mrs. DAVIS. Well, I looked at his clothes and then his face from the side because I had seen him from a side view of him. I didn't see him fullface.
So.....a black or dark coat huh? And really didn't see much of a face.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1873 on: August 31, 2020, 06:59:46 AM »
The "coup-de-grace" shot wasn't a thing until Jack Tatum reported it 15 years after the fact.  If he was actually there to begin with...
But there was a shot to the head at point blank range that apparently left no powder marks....
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth338568/m1/

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1874 on: September 12, 2020, 08:26:47 PM »
But there was a shot to the head at point blank range that apparently left no powder marks....
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth338568/m1/

Still could have been fired from across the hood.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1875 on: September 14, 2020, 12:54:47 AM »
Still could have been fired from across the hood.


" could have been fired from across the hood."

Absolutely right....And that would indicate that the killerwas a crack shot with an accurate pistol.....   Which means that the killer was NOT Lee Oswald, nor was the weapon a grossly inaccurate and worn out S&W revolver.