Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo

[Matt Grantham]

 Maybe. However that conclusion of yours is not the only significant question raised on the thread. I thought I saw a lose up that looked a little different than the one available here Clearly some of the other photographs from official souurces look completely different than the originals

[Allan Fritzke]

OK CTs, let's say there was a bullet hole in the windshield.

I guess that means we have more altered/falsified/faked photos to expose.

It also means that the windshield assassin would probably be located somewhere atop the underpass or in that vicinity. Yet to my knowledge none was seen.

It also means that glass shards would be expected to be showered into the limo and upon it's occupants. I don't believe any glass shards were reported.

It also means that CTs should be prepared to attempt to explain what happened to the bullet that passed through the windshield.

The photo Altgens took when the limousine was beside him has been removed.  He took an earlier picture and a later picture.   The other one had to be removed because it was telling of what was going on.   He was a paid AP reporter that should have clicked the shutter.  He either didn't or it was conveniently removed.   His account also does not mention the President's head going back in the seat.   Total none sense!   Although he did see the head move forward at Z313! 

Again, there was one guy rolling in the grass next to the limousine.  The best shot comes from the front direct in line with JFK.   Glass shards reflect light and that is what you see happening in the Zapruder Film at Z329.    You also see the driver's reaction to the oncoming bullet as his head moves towards the windshield during the sequence.   One big coverup is the best way to describe the scene and why the car was whisked away and and had a windshield replaced.   Rock chips from a gravel road lol!

Just have a close look at Z336 and you can't help but see film modification.  Is the golden nugget you see Jacqueline's dress or his brain?  You can clearly see his ear in Z336 and you can see the arm of her dress at the same time.  Head had to have been removed in that frame!   Seeing an ear and no head in front means extreme editing!  It doesn't take rocket science to analyze one frame like that!  Is that not her pink shoulder in front of the  hair/ear where you would expect to see a head instead?

[Zeon Mason]

so no mention of a "crack" in the windshield either in the notes where "no bullet hole" found

[Mitch Todd]

    Medical student Evalea Glanges: "There was a bullet hole in the windshield", a through and through bullet hole from front to back .

Glanges story is that she was outside with another student, and walked up to the limousine to touch what she described as a "clean hole" though the windshield. She said that as soon as she did, a Secret Service agent jumped into the car and drove it away so fast it almost took her arm off.

Here's the problem. Maybe more than one.

There were a number of news photographers standing around outside of Parkland. Without any other story to chase they took photos of the limousine and the crowd that rapidly assembled near the ER entrance.  For about an hour or two, the limo was the most photographed vehicle on the planet. Robin Unger's collection has at least a dozen of those photographs, which can be rearranged in rough chronological order using the progress of the removal of the bubble top from the car's trunk and its subsequent installation on the car. The earliest photos show a group of people standing against the outside wall of the ER in front of the bumper, with a somewhat corpulent woman in a flower-print dress most prominent among the group. It's a nice dress, BTW.  A photo taken shortly later shows that group scattering, with the floral-print dress beating what looks to be a hasty retreat out of frame to the left. From then on, the limo is surrounded by Official-Looking-Guys-In-Suits, with spectators staying a respectful 12-15 feet away. That was the security cordon placed around the car.  You think Glanges really penetrated it?

Also in the parking lot were any number of reporters who, like Richard Dudman, couldn't find a story in the hospital and went outside. A sudden, dangerous altercation between the car and a med student would have gone down right in front of them and their camera-wielding counterparts. Yet no one mentioned such a thing.

[Mitch Todd]

Secret Service Agent Charles Taylor, Jr.

Wrote a report on November 27, 1963 in which he detailed his activities providing security for the limousine immediately after the car?s return to Washington following the assassination. The JFK limousine and the Secret Service follow-up car known as the ?Queen Mary? arrived at Andrews AFB aboard a C-130 propeller-driven cargo plane at about 8:00 PM on November 22, 1963. Agent Taylor rode in the Presidential limousine as it was driven from Andrews AFB to the White House garage at 22nd and M Streets, N.W. In his report about what he witnessed inside the White House garage during the vehicle?s inspection, he wrote: ?In addition, of particular note was the small hole just left of center in the windshield from which what appeared to be bullet fragments were removed.?

[David Lifton, Best Evidence.1988 Edition pp 370-371]

Taylor was riding in the passenger seat. At night he may not have had the best view. In any case, his described a "small hole."

just for reference, this is what a bullet hole through auto safety glass looks like:

 

Do you think you'd describe that simply as a "small hole?"

Add to this Altgens 7 which shows something looking a lot like a bullet hole in t
he windshield you seem to have pretty solid evidence of a bullet hole Yet the WC is completely silent in regard to the windshield?

They asked Kellerman and/or Greer a number of questions about it. It's in their testimony. Might have asked a few more as well.

[Mitch Todd]

Yeah, they could have just called "Safelite repair, Safelite replace".   

Six witnesses said there was a through and through hole, but they were all mistaken because . . .

Reasons.

IIRC, that's basically what FoMoCo's WH liason did.

[Mitch Todd]

Why was the windshield removed in the 1st place? Wasn't it crucial crime scene evidence that should have been left in situ? Aren't you supposed to preserve evidence instead of obliterate or tamper with it in any way? And didn't the SS and FBI know any of this before they tampered with it? Of course they did. No one would be that incompetent, unless...

They did preserve it. It was replaced on the 26th and now sits in the National Archives.