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John Iacoletti:

--- Quote from: Tim Nickerson on April 23, 2018, 02:47:02 AM ---There was only one version that she notated and signed. That's the one that matters here.

I don't feel compelled to explain why her corrections were ignored by the Warren Commission.

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You can't prove that she notated the page that mentions Lovelady and Shelley.  She said that she did not encounter them.

Tim Nickerson:

--- Quote from: Tony Fratini on April 23, 2018, 04:24:12 AM ---Wasn't used Tim. Hence one can call into question the ENTIRE document and its origins.

The Stroud document lists all of the corrections of which NONE were implemented.

What does this suggest to you Tim?

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By your logic, the Stroud document is null and void. Therefore, I guess we just go with what the WC published, right? Adams encountered Lovelady and Shelley upon reaching the first floor.

Anthony Clayden:
The Adams, Styles, Lovelady and Shelly meeting was used by the WC to decide when Adams and Styles descended
You have one out of four people in an encounter, recorded as having reported it occurring, and that one person now denies that it occurred and insist that the record was altered.
No one else, even with prompting from counsel, can remember it.
The Stroud document has Garner giving a testimony that would invalidate a late descent.

There were 4 women together on the 4th floor, 2 of them descend. It just beggars belief that the other two woman weren't officially used to confirm when the descent occurred.

Tim Nickerson:

--- Quote from: Tony Fratini on April 23, 2018, 10:33:50 PM ---Tim,

The Stroud document is an official document from the United States Attorney that was signed and addressed to Rankin.

Why weren't the contents of that document actioned by the WC? In the letter was a crucial piece of information involving a TSBD employee which may have potentially resulted in the identification of the assasin.

The multi million dollar blue chip panel did nothing to resolve this. Or the contents of the Stroud document were not forwarded on.

Why Tim?

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The Stroud document is no more of an official document than the transcript copy that Victoria Adams notated and signed.

Tim Nickerson:

--- Quote from: Anthony Clayden on April 23, 2018, 10:43:09 PM ---The Adams, Styles, Lovelady and Shelly meeting was used by the WC to decide when Adams and Styles descended
You have one out of four people in an encounter, recorded as having reported it occurring, and that one person now denies that it occurred and insist that the record was altered.
No one else, even with prompting from counsel, can remember it.
The Stroud document has Garner giving a testimony that would invalidate a late descent.

There were 4 women together on the 4th floor, 2 of them descend. It just beggars belief that the other two woman weren't officially used to confirm when the descent occurred.

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The encounter with Lovelady and Shelley does rule out an early descent. CTs get themselves all worked up over things like that. And for nothing really.  The fact is that an early descent by Adams and Styles would do nothing to exonerate Oswald. If they had descended early, they would have been traveling very rapidly down those wooden stairs and making a lot of noise in the process. Oswald would have simply followed down behind them, unseen and unheard by anyone.

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