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The missing witness on Book Depository Stairway
Tim Nickerson:
--- Quote from: Tony Fratini on April 23, 2018, 02:21:18 AM ---Ah this nugget from you Tim ;)
What you didn't mention was that there were THREE versions of her WC testimony.
All her changes that she made on that document were NOT incorporated in the published WC volumes HOWEVER the changes made by Mr Belin WERE.
How do you explain that one Tim?
Further, the original stenographic notes and recordings of Adams, Lovelady and Shelley are GONE from the NA. Coincidence?
Why did she even see her WC testimony when she said this?
Mr. BELIN - Miss ADAMS, you have the opportunity if you would like, to read this deposition and sign it before it goes to Washington, or you can waive the signing of it and just let the court reporter send it directly to us. Do you have any preference?
Miss ADAMS - I think I will let you use your own discretion.
Mr. BELIN - It doesn't make any difference to us. If it doesn't make any difference, we can waive it and you won't have to make another trip down here.
Miss ADAMS - That is all right.
Hence, WTF (likely) Mr Belin paying a visit with her WC transcript at her work for?
However, it actually was fortuitous because we have the Stroud document as a result where CLEARLY it supported her version of events.
Unbelievable that Mr David Belin simply couldn't work out her (and Sandra's) timing down the NW stairwell.
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There was only one version that she notated and signed. That's the one that matters here.
I don't feel compelled to explain why her corrections were ignored by the Warren Commission.
Tim Nickerson:
--- Quote from: Tony Fratini on April 23, 2018, 02:23:34 AM ---Said who?
The FBI?
Mr David Belin?
Who?
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Victoria Adams, when she referred to encountering Lovelady and Shelley upon reaching the first floor.
Tim Nickerson:
--- Quote from: Tony Fratini on April 23, 2018, 02:25:50 AM ---Correct - but how did Dorothy know they did Tim?
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According to Barry Ernest, she heard them on the stairs.
Tim Nickerson:
--- Quote from: Tony Fratini on April 23, 2018, 03:17:55 AM ---It is interesting Tim, that BOTH Lovelady and Shelley had no recollection of this first floor "encounter" with Adams just several months later.
So if you believe in Victoria's "recollection" of seeing and speaking with Lovelady and Shelley how come both men don't support her version of events?
Memory loss by both Lovelady and Shelley? ;D
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Lovelady and Shelley both recalled remaining on the steps of the building for three to four minutes after the shooting. Memory loss by both Lovelady and Shelley?
Tim Nickerson:
--- Quote from: Tony Fratini on April 23, 2018, 03:29:34 AM ---That version wasnt what was officially published, hence is null and void. You do not know the circumstances on what she read and when she saw her WC testimony years later she had no recollections of seeing Lovelady and Shelley's name.
I can give you an example where ONE error was changed and included in someone else's WC testimony. So why bother asking for her to read the document, sign it and then fail to incorporate the changes?
Haven't you read the memos that were sent out to the WC staffers and how they were to treat testimony and changes?
What you fail to comprehend was that neither Adams nor Styles were key material witnesses as neither saw anyone on the NW stairwell when they used them.
Why the bother with Adams then? She wasnt the key material witness - Dorothy Garnerwas.
Why didn't Mr David Belin call up Garner in order to sort this out?
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How is it null and void Tony? She signed it and notated it. In doing so, she confirmed that she did indeed testify that she encountered Lovelady and Shelley upon reaching the first floor.
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