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Autopsy proves SBT impossible
Andrew Mason:
--- Quote from: Jack Nessan on May 12, 2018, 01:11:01 PM ---
What answer? No answer is an an answer. The only explanation there is for JBC's wound is a bullet passing through JFK. Despite all the posturing and gnashing of teeth about how impossible it was for one bullet to cause all the wounds, in the end it is the only possible answer there is. It seems to be a lot easier to question the actions of the WC and DPD and the vaguery of what they should have done, than it is to actually explain the mechanics of the assassination.
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Why is it not possible that the bullet through JFK struck JBC in the left thigh? No one ever considered that possibility. But the trajectory makes it quite plausible.
Bernd Werner:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on May 07, 2018, 10:43:50 PM ---Pleass explain the red herring comment
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Your quote contains nothing, that is related to the SBT.
--- Quote from: Jim Brunsman on May 07, 2018, 11:41:43 PM ---I guess I'm a "blowhard" because I stated my opinion based on many years of research on this case. Mr. Nickerson is wedded to an impossible theory and I can understand why his ego would be upset when the real evidence contradicts the moronic SBT.
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"When you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
--- Quote ---One question: Why is the Parkland evidence completely opposite the autopsy conclusions? Are you telling us that Clint Hill, and all the hospital staff were lying?
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Why do you think, that "lying" is the only alternative to explain the contradictions?
--- Quote from: Jack Trojan on May 08, 2018, 02:46:08 AM ---Part 2 of destroying the SBT:
If the MB entered at C7 (according to the x-ray) then it must have exited at T1 if it had a 17 degree downward trajectory from the TSBD. JFK's throat exit wound was actually at C6. LNers, WTF?
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Did you include the slope of the street in your argument?
--- Quote from: Jack Trojan on May 08, 2018, 02:52:54 AM ---Part 3 of destroying the SBT:
LNers all, show us how the MB was possible.
Point 2 lasers at one another at a 17 degree angle and get in between them to show us how the MB entered at C7 and exited at C6/C7.
Good luck!
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Ok, question answered, you didn't!
--- Quote from: Andrew Mason on May 11, 2018, 01:09:48 AM ---I agree that the autopsy does not disprove the SBT. What disproves the SBT the trajectory, are the following:
1. the 20+ witnesses who said that JFK reacted to the first shot (not by smiling and waving for 3 seconds but by assuming a blank look, moving to the left, reaching for his neck/chest);
2. the 20+ witnesses who placed the first shot after z191 (eg. Betzner, Hughes, bystanders along Elm, occupants of the VP car who said that they had completed the turn - it is still turning at z191, similarly for VP security and Cabell cars, etc.);
3. the 40+ witnesses who distinctly recalled that the last two shots were closer together and in rapid succession;
4. the individual witnesses like Greer, Hickey and Altgens who put the second shot after z255; and
5. Tague, who said he was struck on the second shot. That is inconsistent with the second shot SBT. Greer said he sensed a "concussion" on the second shot and turned around immediately, which supports a strike on the windshield frame on that second shot.
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So you're building your case solely on witness accounts. That seems to be a little bit moot, doesn't it?
--- Quote ---All three shots struck occupants in the car. There was no missed shot.
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And where is the missing bullet?
Matt Grantham:
There are at least a dozen credible witnesses that stated or testified to having seen a large hole in the back lower portion JFK's skull That has more credence than whatever went on at Bethesda in my book
Bernd Werner:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on May 12, 2018, 08:32:47 PM ---There are at least a dozen credible witnesses that stated or testified to having seen a large hole in the back lower portion JFK's skull That has more credence than whatever went on at Bethesda in my book
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But there is no relation to the SBT, that is discussed here. Therefore, your argument is a red herring.
--- Quote from: Howard Gee on May 11, 2018, 11:07:07 AM ---Now you tell me, if the SBT is incorrect....what happened to the bullet that hit JFK in the back....and if the throat wound wasn't an exit wound what caused that wound and what happened to that bullet ?
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I think, it is more likely, that hell freezes over.
Jim Brunsman:
Nice try, but several witnesses reported the second and third shots as a "bam-bam" and stressed they were "very close together" (Lee Bowers, et al). If Oswald or any other human was operating the "humanitarian rifle", they would have to cycle the bolt after the second shot and reacquire the target AND fire accurately. Can anyone honestly say that there's such a thing as two shots "very close together" from a bolt action rifle? I think not...
I started this thread knowing there would be many who would concoct scenarios to fit the discredited SBT. But the extent to which folks twist the evidence reminds me of trying to have an intelligent discussion with a Trump supporter. I will state it again because I'm an ineffective communicator. The single bullet theory is impossible because no shots exited from the front of the president's body. Several witnesses saw the president before the SBT could be fabricated. They report the throat wound as one of entrance. End of ballgame for SBT, just from a different direction!
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