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Is the Zapruder film a composite or an original?
Robin Unger:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on April 05, 2018, 08:33:41 PM --- Isn't it a little odd that all the police motorcycles are ahead of the limousine at the begging of the Zapruder film and then behind when it restarts? My understanding is that Zapruder claimed he never stopped filming
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The motorcycles seen at the START of the Zapruder film are the " lead motorcycles " positioned ahead of Curry's lead car
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Steve Barber:
--- Quote from: James Dahl on April 06, 2018, 08:03:18 PM ---Why do I have to read his granddaughter's book, she wasn't there. Zapruder was there and he said he never stopped filming. You are wrong
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No, I am not wrong.
Steve M. Galbraith:
--- Quote from: James Dahl on April 06, 2018, 08:03:18 PM ---Why do I have to read his granddaughter's book, she wasn't there. Zapruder was there and he said he never stopped filming. You are wrong
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Sorry, where did Zapruder state he never stopped filming?
I understand that in the interviews/testimony he doesn't mention stopping. But where does he say explicitly he never stopped?
Steve Barber:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on April 06, 2018, 08:13:47 PM --- Zapruder was Unable to ID Himself on the Zapruder Film Still Frames shown to him during his WC Testimony. Now, years later you want to swear by him when he is viewing a film in the middle of a packed courtroom? Zapruder was paid $150,000 for his film. This $150,000 would make it difficult for him to discredit an alleged copy of the film he sold to Time/Life for a small fortune. In 1963 when Zapruder sold his film for $150K, the average American was making roughly $4,000. $150,000 was a Ton of $$$ back in 1963.
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What?!!!!! "ID himself on the Zapruder film frames"? That makes absolutely no sense at all. Are you referring to him being asked to look at the Willis slide which show he and Marilyn Sitzman and identify himself? Well, if that is the case you are wrong because he does identify himself and his secretary and where they were standing. Since the slide is so blurry, he was pointing out that he would have to say that that is him, but he most definitely was not "wrong" because the slide shows exactly where he was standing while he filmed, Storing. Most people can't even see Zapruder and Sitzman until they are told where to look because the slide is so blurry at that point since they are off in the distance and blend in with the background. He immediately ID'd himself without being coached in any way, shape or form! So cut the crap.
Furthermore, didn't you read Zapruder's testimony carefully? He didn't scrutinize his film, he didn't even retain a copy for himself, and it sounds to me like he does a good job at describing from memory the frames he is being shown.
So, you are saying that because Zapruder was paid such a sum of money, this makes him suspicious? This doesn't surprise me and you most likely believe that Zaprude was in on a plot? Is that correct? As usual, you twist thing like a pretzel to create your fantasy. It never ceases to amaze me.
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Steve Barber on April 07, 2018, 04:25:30 PM --- What?!!!!! "ID himself on the Zapruder film frames"? That makes absolutely no sense at all. Are you referring to him being asked to look at the Willis slide which show he and Marilyn Sitzman and identify himself? Well, if that is the case you are wrong because he does identify himself and his secretary and where they were standing. Since the slide is so blurry, he was pointing out that he would have to say that that is him, but he most definitely was not "wrong" because the slide shows exactly where he was standing while he filmed, Storing. Most people can't even see Zapruder and Sitzman until they are told where to look because the slide is so blurry at that point since they are off in the distance and blend in with the background. He immediately ID'd himself without being coached in any way, shape or form! So cut the crap.
Furthermore, didn't you read Zapruder's testimony carefully? He didn't scrutinize his film, he didn't even retain a copy for himself, and it sounds to me like he does a good job at describing from memory the frames he is being shown.
So, you are saying that because Zapruder was paid such a sum of money, this makes him suspicious? This doesn't surprise me and you most likely believe that Zaprude was in on a plot? Is that correct? As usual, you twist thing like a pretzel to create your fantasy. It never ceases to amaze me.
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YES. I am referring to the Willis Slide. Do you really believe the Copy of whatever Zapruder was shown in court was Not also "Blurry"? You have been around long enough to Know what copies of the Z Film looked like back in the 60's,70's, 80's etc. Even that bootleg Z Film that Groden revealed to the public in "75" was a mass of absolutely Blurry Images. As to Zapruder's WC Testimony, he is UNABLE to ID Himself based on what He SEES on the Willis Slide. Zapruder gives a Vague ID based on knowing his position inside Dealey Plaza. Zapruder did Not "Immediately ID Himself". This description of Yours is incorrect. I am Not saying Zapruder was "in on the plot". What I am saying is based on the HUGE amount of $$$ he was given for his film, he is Not going to turn around and claim In Court that the film that Time/Life had in its' possession is Not the film he shot inside Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63. To do so would have resulted in Zapruder then being asked to forfeit his $$$ due to He being the one that sold/personally handed it to Time/Life. I will say Zapruder's general integrity can be questioned due to: (1) He did INTENTIONALLY HIDE the FACT he was paid $150,000 for the film & (2) He did INTENTIONALLY MISREPRESENT to the public that he donated ALL the money from his film to the Police Fund/Officer Tippit. This was Intentional Misrepresentation/ Fake News on the part of Zapruder.
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