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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1224 on: February 21, 2019, 07:10:31 AM »
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"And all of that subterfuge and lying was done just so they could?what was it now??oh, yes....just so they could falsely place Oswald on the SECOND FLOOR instead of the FIRST FLOOR (which is where most CTers say he was in the first place). Hardly seems worth it, does it? Because the SECOND FLOOR isn't the SIXTH FLOOR, is it? You'd think the crafters of this Baker/Oswald ruse would have had Baker and Truly (both rotten l-i-a-r-s, according to CTers) say they saw Oswald dashing down the stairs between the SIXTH and FIFTH floors. Such a fabricated tale would have been infinitely better for the "Let's Frame Oswald" team of plotters." - D. von Pein (Dec 2017).

There was no way Officer Baker was going to come on board a story that he let loose a man caught dashing down the stairs between the 6th and 5th floors. It would have made him the second most despised man in Dallas.

It seems he was brought round to 'third or fourth floor' that day, but it soon became clear that that story wouldn't wash (Ms Adams, anyone?).

There was little option but to locate the fictitious incident in the 2nd fl lunchroom
-------------close to the back stairway!  :)
-------------away from prying eyes!  :)
-------------Mr Oswald really had been in there (albeit before the shooting)!  :)

Next step: pretend that Mr Oswald confirmed the lunchroom incident to Captain Fritz.

But the Hosty notes have now blown the lid off that deception. Those like Mr von Pein who wish to remain sweetly gullible in the light of the Hosty note are only making fools of themselves!

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Offline David Von Pein

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« Reply #1225 on: February 21, 2019, 10:34:43 AM »
But why did the cops have to invent ANY Baker/Oswald "encounter"?

IMO, it would have been much better (and safer for those evil cops) to have had NO ENCOUNTER at all than to just MAKE UP some false story about seeing LHO on a floor that was FOUR floors away from the assassin's floor. It's just silly.

And we know Oswald admitted to being in the building at around noontime anyway. Plus, we know that Oswald WAS on an UPPER FLOOR at about 11:45-11:55, shortly prior to the shooting. (Verified by the four "elevator race" employees. They can't ALL be liars, can they?)

So a made-up second-floor encounter is superfluous. It's totally unneeded---even if the cops WERE framing Oswald.

Lots more about Oswald's whereabouts on 11/22/63.....

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1308.html
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1226 on: February 21, 2019, 11:34:21 AM »
But why did the cops have to invent ANY Baker/Oswald "encounter"?

IMO, it would have been much better (and safer for those evil cops) to have had NO ENCOUNTER at all than to just MAKE UP some false story about seeing LHO on a floor that was FOUR floors away from the assassin's floor. It's just silly.

They had to get Mr Oswald well away from that front doorway, which is where they knew he'd been!  Thumb1:

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And we know Oswald admitted to being in the building at around noontime anyway.

And we know now-----------thanks to the Hosty notes------------that Mr Oswald explained that he had visited the 2nd fl lunchroom before the motorcade and had subsequently gone outside "to watch the Presidential Parade".

Once again: They had to get him well away from that front doorway, which is where they knew he'd been!

Unfortunately, however, Jesse Curry and Ed Hicks had already blabbed to the press about the real Oswald-officer encounter at----------------you guessed it------------------the front entrance:'(

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Offline Dale Nason

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« Reply #1227 on: February 21, 2019, 01:23:29 PM »
Here's another possibility for what prayer woman/ prayer man is holding. A pair of white gloves! They were popular and in style for women to wear in that era. If this were true, then it must be a woman. Or, LHO in drag?   LOL

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1228 on: February 21, 2019, 01:23:54 PM »
But why did the cops have to invent ANY Baker/Oswald "encounter"?

IMO, it would have been much better (and safer for those evil cops) to have had NO ENCOUNTER at all than to just MAKE UP some false story about seeing LHO on a floor that was FOUR floors away from the assassin's floor. It's just silly.

And we know Oswald admitted to being in the building at around noontime anyway. Plus, we know that Oswald WAS on an UPPER FLOOR at about 11:45-11:55, shortly prior to the shooting. (Verified by the four "elevator race" employees. They can't ALL be liars, can they?)

So a made-up second-floor encounter is superfluous. It's totally unneeded---even if the cops WERE framing Oswald.

Lots more about Oswald's whereabouts on 11/22/63.....

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1308.html

Of course it's silly for the cop(s) to make up this story. And it's not just the evil cops; it's the evil cops + Truly that have to make this up. And the witnesses that saw Baker & Truly together. Beyond silly. BTW, great to see you posting David, hope to see more!


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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1229 on: February 21, 2019, 02:02:02 PM »
Here's another possibility for what prayer woman/ prayer man is holding. A pair of white gloves! They were popular and in style for women to wear in that era. If this were true, then it must be a woman. Or, LHO in drag?   LOL

Yes---it was the height of fashion amongst female clerical staff in that era to signal their excitement by chewing on their gloves.

Anybody But Oswald, eh? LOL.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1230 on: February 21, 2019, 02:12:56 PM »
Of course it's silly for the cop(s) to make up this story. And it's not just the evil cops; it's the evil cops + Truly that have to make this up. And the witnesses that saw Baker & Truly together. Beyond silly.

It stops being silly in the light of the Hosty interrogation notes:



What you and your fellow Warren Gullibles must now explain is why the world was told the precise claimed location of every single Depository employee at the time of the motorcade, but not the precise claimed location of the one Depository employee whose location at the time of the motorcade was considered all-important.

You must also explain why a pretence was made-----after Mr Oswald's death------that he had confirmed a visit to the 2nd fl lunchroom for a Coca Cola after the shooting, when in fact he had told Captain Fritz he had bought the coke before the motorcade.

Are you suggesting that the suppression of these critically important claims made by Mr Oswald was something other than an act of deception on the part of Captain Fritz & Co.? Are you really that gullible?

BTW! Dismissing all this with a wave of the hand and a cry of 'Oswald lied!' does not begin to dispose of the problem. For it leaves unexplained why Captain Fritz & Co. would have seen fit to lie about Mr Oswald's lies.

The Hosty notes have checkmated the Warren Gullibles and their fellow lunchroom-incident believers on the Anti-Warren side!

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1231 on: February 21, 2019, 02:52:12 PM »
Here's another possibility for what prayer woman/ prayer man is holding. A pair of white gloves! They were popular and in style for women to wear in that era. If this were true, then it must be a woman. Or, LHO in drag?   LOL

     As I said in a previous post, short/wrist length WHITE gloves such as Jackie wore that day would also stand out in the dark shadows. If this is a woman, maybe a smoker, maybe she has a cold, raising her hand up to her mouth in order to cover a Cough.
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