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Offline Michael Walton

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #693 on: July 23, 2018, 12:05:43 AM »
Thanks for your thoughts on this, Michael. Who, in your opinion, was the 'they' who planned and pulled off the assassination?

I'll let Castro himself answer that.  That's all I'll say about the why and who:

https://kennedysandking.com/news-items/castro-figured-out-the-jfk-case-in-five-days-speech-of-november-27th-1963

https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/fidel-castro-s-first-speech-on-the-jfk-assassination-11-23-1963

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #694 on: July 23, 2018, 12:26:49 AM »
I'll let Castro himself answer that.  That's all I'll say about the why and who:

https://kennedysandking.com/news-items/castro-figured-out-the-jfk-case-in-five-days-speech-of-november-27th-1963

https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/fidel-castro-s-first-speech-on-the-jfk-assassination-11-23-1963

OK, so on the one side we have what Castro calls "the intellectual authors of the murder" who wanted people to swallow the "Castro did it and let's start WWIII" line. Let's call these the planners.

On the other side we have those who, after the event, were desperate to pin this on the "crazy Commie lone nut". Let's call these (with all due irony) the investigators.

Planners vs Investigators: an important distinction, which you yourself seem happy to make.

My point stands: LHO in the doorway = a nightmare for the investigators, but not for the planners. The former may now want this blamed on a lone nut, but the latter wanted it blamed on a Commie conspiracy-------LHO's link to the carcano would do the job nicely, wherever he might happen to be during the actual assassination.

Offline John Mytton

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« Reply #695 on: July 23, 2018, 12:37:00 AM »
OK, so on the one side we have what Castro calls "the intellectual authors of the murder" who wanted people to swallow the "Castro did it and let's start WWIII" line. Let's call these the planners.

On the other side we have those who, after the event, were desperate to pin this on the "crazy Commie lone nut". Let's call these (with all due irony) the investigators.

Planners vs Investigators: an important distinction, which you yourself seem happy to make.

My point stands: LHO in the doorway = a nightmare for the investigators, but not for the planners. The former may now want this blamed on a lone nut, but the latter wanted it blamed on a Commie conspiracy-------LHO's link to the carcano would do the job nicely, wherever he might happen to be during the actual assassination.


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My point stands: LHO in the doorway = a nightmare for the investigators

Huh? Oswald himself says he was in the building! If Oswald was outside when the President went by wouldn't he be screaming this from the rooftops?

Question. Were you in the building at the time.
Oswald.   Naturally if I work in that building.


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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #696 on: July 23, 2018, 12:41:16 AM »

Huh? Oswald himself says he was in the building! If Oswald was outside when the President went by wouldn't he be screaming this from the rooftops?

Question. Were you in the building at the time.
Oswald.   Naturally if I work in that building.


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Had he been out in the street at the time of the shooting, his answer would have been 'No'!  Thumb1:

Online Steve Howsley

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #697 on: July 23, 2018, 12:52:17 AM »
Do your own research, please. There's plenty of it on here and elsewhere. I have no time for this...



The problem with that Michael is that you have referred to the science as "mumbo jumbo" and that your opinion trumps the official evidence.

With that as a starting point how can anyone be expected to know what you consider evidence?

That's why I asked to see what you consider supports this contention: 

... the kill zone was actually overdone ... they left no chances, which means they had shooters all around Dealey. They wanted to make sure 100% that he was going to be dead by the time the car drove under the triple underpass...



Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #698 on: July 23, 2018, 05:57:45 AM »
The problem with that Michael is that you have referred to the science as "mumbo jumbo" and that your opinion trumps the official evidence.

With that as a starting point how can anyone be expected to know what you consider evidence?

That's why I asked to see what you consider supports this contention: 

... the kill zone was actually overdone ... they left no chances, which means they had shooters all around Dealey. They wanted to make sure 100% that he was going to be dead by the time the car drove under the triple underpass...

I wonder how they would figure out how not to each each other in such a crossfire
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #699 on: July 23, 2018, 10:07:30 AM »
Friends!

Here's a nice blend of Wiegman and Darnell that (if memory serves) Chris Davidson put together:



Look at Billy Lovelady. He is one step down from where he was in the earlier Wiegman frames.
Look at Buell Wesley Frazier. He's on the landing.


Now! Compare their heights. Can anyone seriously believe that the 5'8.5" Lovelady is here only one step down from the ~6' Frazier? Yet that is what those trying to put Lovelady on the landing in the earlier Wiegman frames would have you believe!
No way. No how!