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Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #476 on: July 05, 2018, 12:12:52 AM »
Apologies if these have already been posted.....





Brain, this image that Jerry reposted
I can see a purse if I want to, or at least the shape of one(was that your point Jerry?), I don't deny the shape is there or that I see it but I can easilly deny it's credibilty because that's all it is for now just a shape, could be a shadow and there's ample reason to believe you're reading too much into it.
Find a better image where we see it's clearly a purse and I'm on it, or a chubby arm. or long hair, a dress... my god, you see a dress, oh because of the "buttons", ahh ha. sure that's all very credible, to you... not to me. Clearly I cannot help you, I'm only an amatuer, the only expert I know is Craig Lamson and I don't even know him but he still logs on here perhaps you can PM him for some sound advice, Would love to know what he feels about the Lovelady shadow issue.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #477 on: July 05, 2018, 12:21:24 AM »
Suggestion for Lovelady 'shadow' in Wiegman!



Something along the lines of this kind of deal?






Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #478 on: July 05, 2018, 12:36:11 AM »
Supplied the rifle to kill JFK: if LHO is Prayer Man (and who else, at this stage, could he be?), then this was probably the plan of the conspirators. No need to set LHO up as the 6th floor shooter. The involvement of a Castro-loving Marxist was enough.

Of course, it's possible LHO was knowingly involved in something that day and played the role of a facilitator.

Prayer Man's body language up on those steps in Darnell is ambiguous. Shock? Insoucience? Who's to say!

I'm not sure that either he or Frazier has learnt what's happened yet but that would suggest a real relaxed state of mind especially on his part.
Q: "Were you in the bulding when you heard about the shooting?" A: "Naturally if I work in that building", so went back inside, upstairs and then learnt about it, as others did :)
Also, Here's Fritz in JFKII after just finding out "He's been to Russia... and lived there?!"


Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #479 on: July 05, 2018, 12:46:38 AM »
Brian, I mentoned this a couple times and I don't remember you explaining it.
Let's say she was on the step with both feet, who? Anyone, on any step, She then puts one foot up.
Your telling us you could recognise a change in height, not just in Darnell or Wiegman but in any film or even if she was in the same room? Go put one leg up yourself before you expain it to me(no pun intended).

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #480 on: July 05, 2018, 12:55:18 AM »
I'm not sure that either he or Frazier has learnt what's happened yet but that would suggest a real relaxed state of mind especially on his part.
Q: "Were you in the bulding when you heard about the shooting?" A: "Naturally if I work in that building", so went back inside, upstairs and then learnt about it, as others did :)
Also, Here's Fritz in JFKII after just finding out "He's been to Russia... and lived there?!"


Or?????

Realising a shooting has taken place, he goes back into the vestibule and enters the small storage room at building's front. He brought a rifle to work to sell to someone and left it in the storage room until after work. Now he's thinking, 'No... It couldn't be.' But yes, it could: the rifle's gone. He is just exiting the storage room, his mind spinning, when a motorcycle officer comes running into the vestibule and asks him 'Do you work here?' (Officer wants to be shown the way up to the roof.) Before LHO has time to answer, R.S.Truly steps up and says to the officer 'I am the building manager. Follow me.' Etc.

In custody, LHO doesn't want to admit to ownership of the rifle, so he gives Fritz the bare facts (front entrance, vestibule, officer) but leaves out the storage room part. Perhaps he is so anxious to hide the fact that he went back inside so as to check the storage room that he even hides the fact that he saw JFK pass and was on the front steps for the shooting. So he tells Fritz he was just about to reach the front door to see what had happened outside when the officer came in.

It doesn't even occur to him that anyone might think he fired the actual shots.
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Far fetched?

1. Harry D. Holmes testimony:

Mr. BELIN. By the way, where did this policeman stop him when he was coming down the stairs at the Book Depository on the day of the shooting?
Mr. HOLMES. He said it was in the vestibule.
Mr. BELIN. He said he was in the vestibule?
Mr. HOLMES. Or approaching the door to the vestibule. He was just coming, apparently, and I have never been in there myself. Apparently there is two sets of doors, and he had come out to this front part.
Mr. BELIN. Did he state it was on what floor?
Mr. HOLMES. First floor. The front entrance to the first floor.


2. This:



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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #481 on: July 05, 2018, 01:13:18 AM »
In regards to my post #1119

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,562.msg21555.html#msg21555

I found those clips posted on another link by Duncan MacRae.
I believe this is Prayer Woman.
I used to think it might be Oswald.

However I posted a frame that I believe is Oswald but there was no response to it.
...the guy in the bottom right with his back to the camera-
 


 
 

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #482 on: July 05, 2018, 01:17:25 AM »
In regards to my post #1119

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,562.msg21555.html#msg21555

I found those clips posted on another link by Duncan MacRae.
I believe this is Prayer Woman.
I used to think it might be Oswald.

Which of the female TSBD employees known to have been on the front steps at the time of the assassination do you believe this might be? Unless you or someone else can come up with a viable name, she's not 'Prayer Woman'.

(Hint: she's not 'Prayer Woman'!)