Prayer Woman

[Ray Mitcham]

Barry is right!

If the dark border going down nearly half of Lovelady in Wiegman is a shadow cast by the west entrance pillar, then Stancak's calculations are not just wrong but OUTLANDISHLY wrong.

Here's Stancak's reconstruction of the entrance:




Ignore the Prayer Man avatar. Shrink the Frazier avatar to 5'8" and bring him down to the top step by the center railing
-----------It's a complete non-starter that he's going to catch any shadow from the west pillar, let alone the 'shadow' we see going down Lovelady. No way. No how.




So my question for those arguing for a shadow is this:
What are your grounds for disagreeing with Stancak's calculations so radically?

Have you, for instance, anything from the photo record to support your TOTAL dismissal of his reconstructed doorway? Like Barry, I have searched and can find not a single image to support even the possibility of this being a shadow on Lovelady!

Stancek's calculations are not wrong. The shadow running down Lovely is not a dark jacket it is the shadow of the left column of the entrance.

Look at the two Darnell photos of Lovelady. The shadow changes angle as he moves down and to his right.
How would a jacket move that way?
In Stancek's recreation, the shadow on Frazier is the shadow of the lintel over the doorway. (See the same shadow on the doorway behind him.)

[Alan Ford]

Can this really be happening? Is it being proposed that BillyNolanLovelady is/was wearing an unzipped dark jacket as the motorcade drove past the TexasSchoolBookDepository Building? Aside from an agenda based imagination, there is nothing to support that scenario. Pure and simple, nothing. And, there is nothing provable to indicate PrayerPersonImage to be any male, which of course eliminates LeeHarveyOswald.
Talk about absolute  !

How do you explain the dark border going down Lovelady's side in Wiegman?

[Ray Mitcham]

How do you explain the dark border going down Lovelady's side in Wiegman?

Alan, it the shadow of the west door column. Note how it moves when he steps to his right and down a step.
One shadow is angled because he leans back slightly.

[Alan Ford]

Stancek's calculations are not wrong. The shadow running down Lovely is not a dark jacket it is the shadow of the left column of the entrance.

Look at the two Darnell photos of Lovelady. The shadow changes angle as he moves down and to his right.
How would a jacket move that way?
In Stancek's recreation, the shadow on Frazier is the shadow of the lintel over the doorway.

Unless a jacket is very loose fitting, Ray, it will tilt with the body, especially if the body is leaning back a little. Just like we see here:



There's simply no way this is a shadow cast by the left column, otherwise this photo taken a little later, with the sun a little further west, would be impossible in the way it shows the motorcycle officer in direct sunlight:

[Ray Mitcham]

Unless a jacket is very loose fitting, Ray, it will tilt with the body, especially if the body is leaning back a little. Just like we see here:



There's simply no way this is a shadow cast by the left column, otherwise this photo taken a little later, with the sun a little further west, would be impossible in the way it shows the motorcycle officer in direct sunlight:

The cop in the motorcycle helmet is standing further forward on a lower step than the others. You can see the shadow of the left column, to the right of his right leg. You can also see the shadow cast by the lintel to the lower left of the cop on the right.

[Ray Mitcham]

If there is any member of the forum, able to get to the TSBD in the next few days, it would be easy to prove that Stancek is quite correct. Assuming the weather is sunny and it should be this time of the year, I will tell him or her what time to stand on the steps to simulate Frazier's position. The sun's shadow will be the same plane, at 12.32 today, as it was at 12.30 on 11.22.63.

[Alan Ford]

The cop in the motorcycle helmet is standing further forward on a lower step than the others. You can see the shadow of the left column, to the right of his right leg.

No, they're both one step down. The motorcycle cop's hand is on the top of the railing.



Here's the scene ca. 12:50pm:



Look at the man in green entering the building, and the cop in charge who casts a shadow on his back. No way can we get from a west pillar shadow down Lovelady's side in Wiegman at 12.30pm to this.