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Offline Tom Sorensen

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #700 on: March 14, 2025, 06:55:52 AM »
From above:

After hearing "the police cars, the sirens was going, running crisscrossing everywhere, just a big uproar in that end of town" while in the cab, all Oswald did was remain silent to Whaley's enquires. How many people in a similar situation who had at least some knowledge would say absolutely nothing?

Oswald was not in Whaley's cab. Another false claim by the commission. Old news.

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #701 on: March 14, 2025, 07:16:29 AM »
From above:

After hearing "the police cars, the sirens was going, running crisscrossing everywhere, just a big uproar in that end of town" while in the cab, all Oswald did was remain silent to Whaley's enquires. How many people in a similar situation who had at least some knowledge would say absolutely nothing?

Oswald was not in Whaley's cab. Another false claim by the commission. Old news.

Boy oh boy, here we go again!
You are you the quite the doubting Thomas about what is really an insignificant event and which doesn't add much to Oswald's guilt.
But Tom, Oswald had to get to his rooming house somehow;

• Oswald told Fritz that he got a cab.
• Oswald told Bookout he got a cab
• Whaley positively ID'd Oswald in a line-up.
• Whaley's call sheet which he admits wasn't required to be filled in with times to the exact minute, had a journey from Dallas to Beckley street, some coincidence eh?
• The person we know as Oswald being quietly arrogant and only spoke to satisfy his own selfish needs was pretty well described as such by Whaley.

JohnM
« Last Edit: March 14, 2025, 07:20:22 AM by John Mytton »

Offline Tom Sorensen

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #702 on: March 14, 2025, 07:18:32 AM »
You're all over the place and writing checks that you can't afford, then claiming hollow victories based on your misunderstanding of what actually comprises an anti-social individual.
Asking someone what happened to discover facts cannot be conflated with "chatting up his co-workers", because in no way is Oswald trying to be someone's friend by asking what happened.
For instance a perfect example of why we would expect an innocent Oswald to ask his co-workers or anybody what happened, on the morning of the 22nd Jr Jarman recollects "Lee Oswald asked me what all the people were doing standing on the street. I told him that the President was supposed to come this way sometime this morning. He asked me, "Which way do you think he is coming?". I told him that the President would probably come down Main Street and turn on Houston and then go down Elm Street. He said, "Yes, I see"." But they were hardly friends. Therefore Oswald would selfishly interact as way of discovery or in this Jarman case, of deception.
So as is clear, Oswald had no need to discover what happened since he was the cause and being in flight had no time for any interactions!

This overview and symptoms from the Mayo clinic illustrates the characteristics of being anti-social. Read this and learn, and perhaps you can avoid embarrassment in the future.

"Overview

Antisocial personality disorder, sometimes called sociopathy, is a mental health condition in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others. People with antisocial personality disorder tend to purposely make others angry or upset and manipulate or treat others harshly or with cruel indifference. They lack remorse or do not regret their behavior.

People with antisocial personality disorder often violate the law, becoming criminals. They may lie, behave violently or impulsively, and have problems with drug and alcohol use. They have difficulty consistently meeting responsibilities related to family, work or school.


Symptoms

Symptoms of antisocial personality disorder include repeatedly:

Ignoring right and wrong.
Telling lies to take advantage of others.
Not being sensitive to or respectful of others.
Using charm or wit to manipulate others for personal gain or pleasure.
Having a sense of superiority and being extremely opinionated.
Having problems with the law, including criminal behavior.
Being hostile, aggressive, violent or threatening to others.
Feeling no guilt about harming others.
Doing dangerous things with no regard for the safety of self or others.
Being irresponsible and failing to fulfill work or financial responsibilities.

Adults with antisocial personality disorder usually show symptoms of conduct disorder before the age of 15. Symptoms of conduct disorder include serious, ongoing behavior problems, such as:

Aggression toward people and animals.
Destruction of property.
Lying and dishonesty.
Theft.
Serious violation of rules."

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/antisocial-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20353928

BTW has your shrink diagnosed you as being anti-social because with your performance here, you certainly qualify, just saying!

JohnM

Congratulations John (and Steve), you won that one, good job!

Right, Oswald didn't really care about his Carcano and toddlers kicking it around the garage floor was no big deal, so what exactly did you mean by "safely stored"?

Oh, about the scope, if it wasn't permanently attached, when did it become attached?

So what's new about the rifle scope that wasn't permanently attached, but then it found itself attached? Looks like you sneaked out on that one.


Offline John Mytton

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #703 on: March 14, 2025, 07:44:55 AM »
So what's new about the rifle scope that wasn't permanently attached, but then it found itself attached? Looks like you sneaked out on that one.

How long is a piece of string, it's an impossible question to answer.

BTW I didn't see your response.

JohnM

Offline Tom Sorensen

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #704 on: March 14, 2025, 03:47:11 PM »
How long is a piece of string, it's an impossible question to answer.

BTW I didn't see your response.

JohnM


No problem. The strings don't matter; only two possible scenarios: mounted or not mounted when Oswald picked it up. Given Oswald's training, he would know the scope was useless unless zeroed in; your proposed scenario doesn't work:

What proof have you got that the scope was attached or even in the Blanket, because at Neely street, Oswald's rifle didn't have the scope attached, Oops, so it's not a given that it was permanently attached. And considering the rifle was war surplus, you know designed to be used in a war, I don't think Oswald was too concerned about a few toddlers rummaging about around his blanket wrapped rifle. Hahahaha!

It had to be mounted, in which case he would also have no confidence in a scope after likely being kicked around on the floor, even if it had once been aligned, of which there is no evidence. Only two slotted screws held the bracket/scope; out they went, and he could use the sights unobstructed. For this reason, the scoped rifle found on the 6th floor makes no sense if Oswald brought it in. When FBI Robert Frazier later received the rifle, the scope was in such bad shape that he couldn't align it; essentially at prop.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2025, 03:49:30 PM by Tom Sorensen »

Offline Michael Capasse

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #705 on: March 14, 2025, 04:27:38 PM »
Using the iron sight has been a LN excuse for a number of years. First time I heard it was on these boards
But why even mount the scope if he has to break down the rifle anyway? The scope sucks.
FBI had to mount 5 shims to stabilize it because, it wobbled when the bolt was worked.

These excuses for inconsistencies in the evidence are its failure to corroborate proof.
It is everywhere.

Also - where and when does find the time to rebuild the rifle?
Why would he not pack the tool he used to break it down?
One screw in particular seems very difficult if not impossible with a dime.
More importantly, how, where and when does he SIGHT the rifle? (that is, fire 10 rounds)


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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #706 on: March 14, 2025, 06:47:19 PM »
Using the iron sight has been a LN excuse for a number of years. First time I heard it was on these boards
But why even mount the scope if he has to break down the rifle anyway? The scope sucks.
FBI had to mount 5 shims to stabilize it because, it wobbled when the bolt was worked.

These excuses for inconsistencies in the evidence are its failure to corroborate proof.
It is everywhere.

Also - where and when does find the time to rebuild the rifle?
Why would he not pack the tool he used to break it down?
One screw in particular seems very difficult if not impossible with a dime.
More importantly, how, where and when does he SIGHT the rifle? (that is, fire 10 rounds)



I'm not exactly sure I'm following.  How do you know the condition of the scope at the moment Oswald fired it?  The rifle had been dropped on the floor and put between some boxes.  The scope was removed to check the rifle for prints.  Even if there was some misalignment with the scope, an experienced shooter who had used the rifle could make adjustments to compensate.  And, of course, Oswald only hit two out of three times.  How do you know what tools he had to "rebuild" the rifle?  Why would it even be necessary to remove the scope to disassemble the rifle to fit the bag?  The scope doesn't add to the rifle's length.  Couldn't the rifle be put in the bag partially disassembled but with the scope still attached?