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[Martin Weidmann]

The Oswald defenders have to explain this behavior, this lack of interest in what happened, not me.

Second: Oswald was a political person. He read political journals, newspapers, biographies of political people like Mao and JFK. He attended an ACLU meeting three weeks before the assassination where the Birchers and politics were discussed. He discussed politics with the Paines. DeMohrenshchildt said they discussed politics. Marina said he would she her news stories about JFK and translate it to her. He had radical views, was angry and erratic; but he wasn't apolitical.

So he's not interested AT ALL in what happened? He comes out of the building (so why did he come outside?) and doesn't ask anyone what was going on? There is chaos going on; he doesn't ask what is this all about? Again, he's an erratic angry man; he's not an idiot.

Oswald defenders can't explain this lack of interest; so they want to wave their hands and turn the question around. We know why.

The Oswald defenders have to explain this behavior, this lack of interest in what happened, not me.

Why? You are the one making the insinuations.

[Martin Weidmann]

Hilarious! Exactly Martin, since the 1450s, history has shown it to be not authentic! You can't make this up!

JohnM

Stop showing you ignorance, John

I can't help it that you don't understand history and it's relation to reality, but if you don't understand the saying "history is written by the victors" there isn't much I can do to help you.

But I still have confidence in you, John, and I believe that at some point in time you will understand. Let me try to give you an example;

When Henry Tudor defeated and killed Richard III he became the first Tudor king. The first thing he did was to alter the records to show that he was already the rightful king the day prior to the battle of Bosworth Field, declaring for the History books that it was Richard who was the usurper.

And according to you, history books are always right... think again 

[Martin Weidmann]

Hilarious! Exactly Martin, since the 1450s, history has shown it to be not authentic! You can't make this up!

JohnM

What are you saying?

That in perhaps 300 years from now people will find out that your "Oswald did it" fairytale was indeed a lie?

[John Mytton]

What are you saying?

That in perhaps 300 years from now people will find out that your "Oswald did it" fairytale was indeed a lie?

This isn't the dark ages, we live in a World in which practically all information is disseminated and can be accessed by virtually anybody across the entire planet, and thousands of conspiracy Buffs with undying devotion have looked into this case for over 60 years and have explored each and every aspect and in their desperation have split the split hair in their unwavering commitment to discovering the "truth" and where are we now, well Martin I'll tell you, there is no consensus only numerous assumptions based on insignificant unconnected anomalies.
There is nothing more than can be learned, we have more than enough information than we will ever need.
And after the last files are released which have reportedly nothing of significance, there will be nothing else, so in 300 years or even 3000 years there will be no alternatives, it only happened one way.
The WC and HSCA findings that Oswald did it, is and will always be the accepted truth.

JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

This isn't the dark ages, we live in a World in which practically all information is disseminated and can be accessed by virtually anybody across the entire planet, and thousands of conspiracy Buffs with undying devotion have looked into this case for over 60 years and have explored each and every aspect and in their desperation have split the split hair in their unwavering commitment to discovering the "truth" and where are we now, well Martin I'll tell you, there is no consensus only numerous assumptions based on insignificant unconnected anomalies.
There is nothing more than can be learned, we have more than enough information than we will ever need.
And after the last files are released which have reportedly nothing of significance, there will be nothing else, so in 300 years or even 3000 years there will be no alternatives, it only happened one way.
The WC and HSCA findings that Oswald did it, is and will always be the accepted truth.

JohnM

well Martin I'll tell you, there is no consensus only numerous assumptions based on insignificant unconnected anomalies.

Well, that's true, I suppose... and it also means that any conclusion about guilt or innocense based on anything that's unresolved is at least premature.

There is nothing more than can be learned,

How do you know?

so in 300 years or even 3000 years there will be no alternatives, it only happened one way.

So, now you are a fortune teller?

The WC and HSCA findings that Oswald did it, is and will always be the accepted truth.

Except they already aren't, because the majority of people don't believe it. In over 60 years the "Oswald did it alone" crowd has been unable to persuade a majority of the people. Why is that?

[John Mytton]

The WC and HSCA findings that Oswald did it, is and will always be the accepted truth.

Except they already aren't, because the majority of people don't believe it. In over 60 years the "Oswald did it alone" crowd has been unable to persuade a majority of the people. Why is that?

There will always people who believe in conspiracies, some people just aren't that well informed and the main source of early disinformation comes from your friends, but as time goes on, and like I said today in an earlier post, information now is increasingly more easily acquired than throughout all of human history and by looking at these Gallup poll results, it looks like the tide is turning!



JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

There will always people who believe in conspiracies, some people just aren't that well informed and the main source of early disinformation comes from your friends, but as time goes on, and like I said today in an earlier post, information now is increasingly more easily acquired than throughout all of human history and by looking at these Gallup poll results, it looks like the tide is turning!



JohnM

What were the parameters for this poll?

And please show me the poll that has "Oswald did it" as majority opinion