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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lone Nutters Abuse Of The Term "Conspiracy Theory"
« Reply #35 on: Yesterday at 06:19:55 PM »
It's not a matter of belief. Odum deferred to the FBI document. That is a fact.

Tomlinson said that but it wasn't true? You're not making any sense. CE-2011 and CD-1258 are the same thing. You need to read page 3 of 1258 again and read it carefully. Wright told Odum that the slug looked like the slug that he gave to Richard Johnsen at parkland on Nov 22, 1963.

I have read it. I have it on one of my laptops. I recall that Tomlinson thought it might have been Shanklin but wasn't sure. The notion that Shanklin waited to until July of 1964 to report on the interview is laughable. And CE 2011 and the Airtel do NOT conflict with each other. Stop being so dense.

Oh FFS! You've gone completely batty.

It's not a matter of belief. Odum deferred to the FBI document. That is a fact

Calling cherry picked evidence a "fact" doesn't make it one. You don't know what motivated Odum to make that call. My guess is that he started doubting his own memory when he learned that the FBI claimed that he did show CE 399 to Tomlinson and Wright.

All Odum said to Thompson is that, after thinking about it, he now had some vague recollection of talking to Wright, but he still had no recollection about ever having the bullet CE 399 or showing it to anybody. He then said, from what you (Thompson) are saying (about the FBI claim), that must have been what it was.

And you call this a "fact"? Really?

Tomlinson said that but it wasn't true? You're not making any sense. CE-2011 and CD-1258 are the same thing.

Yes those are the same thing, but CE 2011 and Shanklin's Airtel are not. Btw you are reading incorrectly what I actually wrote.

You need to read page 3 of 1258 again and read it carefully. Wright told Odum that the slug looked like the slug that he gave to Richard Johnsen at parkland on Nov 22, 1963.

Indeed, that's what it says. I missed that part.

Not that it matters much, because it doesn't say anything of the kind in Shanklin's Airtel, which - without FD 302's - is the only source for the information about this subject contained in CE 2011.

The notion that Shanklin waited to until July of 1964 to report on the interview is laughable.

Shanklin did not wait until July 1964 to report on his interview. He simply did not write a report in November 1963 and then found, seven months later, that all of a sudden he had to respond to questions asked by the WC.

Remember, this is the same Shanklin who told Hosty to destroy a note written by Oswald! Manipulation of evidence clearly wasn't beyond him.
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Re: Lone Nutters Abuse Of The Term "Conspiracy Theory"
« Reply #36 on: Yesterday at 06:24:42 PM »
Tomlinson was obviously wrong in 1966 when he told Marcus that the FBI had only interviewed him once. Shanklin did not show him the bullet. Odum did.

There's nothing "obviously wrong" about what Tomlinson told Marcus. In 1964 he told Specter the same thing. He was interviewed by an FBI agent in late November 1963 and a Secret Service Agent in early December 1963. A report by that Secret Service Agent shows he was correct.

Shanklin did not show him the bullet. Odum did.

Were you there? Don't mistake what you believe for actual evidence provided by an actual witness.
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« Reply #37 on: Yesterday at 06:27:35 PM »
Tomlinson did not know who had been on that stretcher. R.J. Jimison did.

Mr. SPECTER - Was there any other stretcher placed on that elevator later that day?
Mr. JIMISON - Not during my shift.
Mr. SPECTER - Are you the only man who would put the stretcher on the elevator if there were one?
Mr. JIMISON - No, I is not, but might near--I could might near see of anybody--from where the elevator sits from where the halls were--I could might near see all of the stretchers put on there.
Mr. SPECTER - If a stretcher was put on there it would have to be in your presence?
Mr. JIMISON - I would have had to be hid where I wouldn't be able to see it.
Mr. SPECTER - What time did you put the stretcher from Governor Connally on the elevator?
Mr. JIMISON - I'm not too sure I know of the time. I really don't know exactly the time.
Mr. SPECTER - Well, about how long after he was taken into the operating room, did you?
Mr. JIMISON - It was lesser than 10 minutes before or after.
Mr. SPECTER - What time did you get off that day?
Mr. JIMISON - 3:30.
Mr. SPECTER - And you say there was no other stretcher placed on that elevator from the time you put Governor Connally's stretcher on until the end of the day?
Mr. JIMISON - Until the end of my shift. You see, that's the emergency---- from the emergency that we had from that time that he was brought up until I was relieved from duty that afternoon.

All Jimison knew is that he placed the stretcher from Connally on the elevator. That's it.

Everything else is your imagination