Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: Shooter behind the fence  (Read 523 times)

Online Mark A. Oblazney

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 546
Re: Shooter behind the fence
« Reply #14 on: Today at 08:02:55 AM »
yes, uh, welcome to the forum, centurion John W. !

Online John Corbett

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2290
Re: Shooter behind the fence
« Reply #15 on: Today at 12:09:31 PM »
    You guys keep moving the goalpost. NOW it's 3 shots 10 seconds total elapsed time.  We get the final half of the 1st Generation Copy of the Darnell Film, and it will Not matter. That Bogus DPD Cop strolling across the railroad yard will be proven to Not be Officer Haygood = Conspiracy.

Have you ever read the WCR? The goalposts were never moved. The last word on the timespan of the shots is the conclusion at the end of Chapter 3.

"Since the preponderance of the evidence indicated that three shots were fired, the Commission concluded that one shot probably missed the Presidential limousine and its occupants, and that the three shots were fired in a time period ranging from approximately 4.8 to in excess of 7 seconds."

10 seconds is in excess of 7 seconds.  While I believe the 3 shots were fired in just under 9 seconds, a 10+ second scenario was allowed for by the WC. It was the CTs, aided by dumbass reporting by the likes of Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather, who perpetuated the myth that the WC concluded the 3 shots were fired in 5.6 seconds or less.

Offline Michael Capasse

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 965
Re: Shooter behind the fence
« Reply #16 on: Today at 01:30:23 PM »
Have you ever read the WCR? The goalposts were never moved. The last word on the timespan of the shots is the conclusion at the end of Chapter 3.

"Since the preponderance of the evidence indicated that three shots were fired, the Commission concluded that one shot probably missed the Presidential limousine and its occupants, and that the three shots were fired in a time period ranging from approximately 4.8 to in excess of 7 seconds."

10 seconds is in excess of 7 seconds.  While I believe the 3 shots were fired in just under 9 seconds, a 10+ second scenario was allowed for by the WC. It was the CTs, aided by dumbass reporting by the likes of Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather, who perpetuated the myth that the WC concluded the 3 shots were fired in 5.6 seconds or less.

 :D Twisted BS

The WC never said anything about 10+ sec. You just made that up
According to the WC any excess of 7 sec was if the 2nd shot missed.
They didn't report an early shot. Certainly no where near your fantasy Z-145
« Last Edit: Today at 01:31:07 PM by Michael Capasse »

Online John Corbett

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2290
Re: Shooter behind the fence
« Reply #17 on: Today at 01:45:12 PM »
:D Twisted BS

The WC never said anything about 10+ sec. You just made that up

Damn, your reading comprehension is piss poor. Is 10+ seconds in excess of 7 seconds? The WC put no upper limit on the total time span of the 3 shots if the second shot was not the missed shot, which it wasn't.
Quote

According to the WC any excess of 7 sec was if the 2nd shot missed.
They didn't report an early shot. Certainly no where near your fantasy Z-145

No, dumbass. If the second shot missed, the maximum time span was 5.6 seconds. There was no maximum time span stated if the second shot did not miss. Only that it would have been in excess of 7 seconds. (8.9 by my calculation)

Offline Michael Capasse

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 965
Re: Shooter behind the fence
« Reply #18 on: Today at 01:50:39 PM »
Damn, your reading comprehension is piss poor. Is 10+ seconds in excess of 7 seconds? The WC put no upper limit on the total time span of the 3 shots if the second shot was not the missed shot, which it wasn't.
No, dumbass. If the second shot missed, the maximum time span was 5.6 seconds. There was no maximum time span stated if the second shot did not miss. Only that it would have been in excess of 7 seconds. (8.9 by my calculation)

"The Commission stated that if either the first or the third shot missed, the total time span for all three shots by Lee Harvey Oswald was roughly 5 to 5.5 seconds."

"Depending on which specific shot missed, the absolute outer limits calculated by the Commission ranged from 4.8 seconds up to 7.9 seconds total "

Quote
There was no maximum time span stated if the second shot did not miss. Only that it would have been in excess of 7 seconds. (8.9 by my calculation)

More BS and your personal insults add nothing to your claims

"If either the first or third shots missed, then a minimum of 2.3 seconds (necessary to operate the rifle) must be added to the time span of the shots which hit, giving a minimum time of 7.1 to 7.9 seconds for the three shots."
« Last Edit: Today at 02:23:07 PM by Michael Capasse »

Online Royell Storing

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5662
Re: Shooter behind the fence
« Reply #19 on: Today at 02:05:34 PM »
Have you ever read the WCR? The goalposts were never moved. The last word on the timespan of the shots is the conclusion at the end of Chapter 3.

"Since the preponderance of the evidence indicated that three shots were fired, the Commission concluded that one shot probably missed the Presidential limousine and its occupants, and that the three shots were fired in a time period ranging from approximately 4.8 to in excess of 7 seconds."

10 seconds is in excess of 7 seconds.  While I believe the 3 shots were fired in just under 9 seconds, a 10+ second scenario was allowed for by the WC. It was the CTs, aided by dumbass reporting by the likes of Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather, who perpetuated the myth that the WC concluded the 3 shots were fired in 5.6 seconds or less.

   So an elapsed firing time for the 3 Shots of 1 minute is also OK with the WC? And NOW You wantta throw Cronkite and Rather under the bus too? They WERE your biggest cheer leaders. Never thought I would see an LN turn on Cronkite, but here You are. Pure scramble mode.   

Online John Corbett

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2290
Re: Shooter behind the fence
« Reply #20 on: Today at 02:35:01 PM »
"The Commission stated that if either the first or the third shot missed, the total time span for all three shots by Lee Harvey Oswald was roughly 5 to 5.5 seconds."

You are either lying. The WC never wrote that. You made it up. The entire WCR is online for all to see. Their final conclusion regarding the time span of the shots can be found here:

https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-3.html#conclusion

"roughly 5 to 5.5 seconds" is nowhere to be found. Why do you have to resort to lying in order to make your points?
Quote

"Depending on which specific shot missed, the absolute outer limits calculated by the Commission ranged from 4.8 seconds up to 7.9 seconds total "

More lies. The WC never put an upper limit on the total time span in the even of either a first or third shot miss. The passage I cited above states the following":

"Since the preponderance of the evidence indicated that three shots were fired, the Commission concluded that one shot probably missed the Presidential limousine and its occupants, and that the three shots were fired in a time period ranging from approximately 4.8 to in excess of 7 seconds."

in excess of 7 seconds does not put an upper limit on the time span of the shots.
Quote

More BS and your personal insults add nothing to your claims

"If either the first or third shots missed, then a minimum of 2.3 seconds (necessary to operate the rifle) must be added to the time span of the shots which hit, giving a minimum time of 7.1 to 7.9 seconds for the three shots."

A MINIMUM TIME!!! No mention of a maximum amount of time. Do you understand the difference between minimum and maximum?
« Last Edit: Today at 02:51:24 PM by John Corbett »