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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Peter Dale Scott hints Oswald was impersonated!
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 06:00:10 PM »
Humm, so I take it you find the idea that Oswald was impersonated to be some wild and specious theory? Are you aware that the two HSCA investigators who investigated Oswald's activities in Mexico City (Ed Lopez and Dan Hardway) came away convinced that someone was impersonating Oswald in Mexico City? Have you read the Lopez-Hardway Report?

How about the several reports from credible witnesses, one of whom was a doctor, who reported seeing Oswald at certain locations in Dallas when the real Oswald was positively known to be elsewhere at those times? Let me guess: All the witnesses were "mistaken," right?
Nowhere in the report does it say they were "convinced" that an impersonation took place. The document says "the possibility" of an impersonation cannot be dismissed but not that it did occur.
 
Here is what it directly says about a possible - possible - impersonation (this is from the section looking into the question):

 

Saying "a possibility cannot be dismissed" is not saying they were convinced one took place.

Report is here: https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/lopezrpt_2003/html/LopezRpt_0264a.htm
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Online Brian Doyle

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Peter Dale Scott hints Oswald was impersonated!
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 06:26:56 PM »


If you have a good sense of Harvey & Lee you will see that both Marina and Judyth Baker would not have likely missed the fact there were two Oswalds...

Online Tommy Shanks

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Re: Peter Dale Scott hints Oswald was impersonated!
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 07:08:49 PM »

If you have a good sense of Harvey & Lee you will see that both Marina and Judyth Baker would not have likely missed the fact there were two Oswalds...

Dude, come on. Now Marina and Baker BOTH are in on the doppelganger secret? How can you possible believe this.

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Re: Peter Dale Scott hints Oswald was impersonated!
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 07:59:14 PM »
Nowhere in the report does it say they were "convinced" that an impersonation took place. The document says "the possibility" of an impersonation cannot be dismissed not that it did occur.
 
Here is what it directly says about a possible - possible - impersonation (this is from the section looking into the question):

 

Saying "a possibility cannot be dismissed" is not saying they were convinced one took place.

Report is here: https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/lopezrpt_2003/html/LopezRpt_0264a.htm

Dear Steve M.,

The statement you've quoted is about Oswald and/or "Oswald" in Mexico.

Let us not forget that 5' 3.5" Silvia Duran at the Cuban Consulate described the Oswald she'd dealt with as being short, blond-haired, and green-or-blue-eyed, and that Consul Eusebio Azcue described him as being 35-ish, thin, blond-haired, very-thin-faced, and wearing a blue Prince of Wales suit with reddish highlights.

Factoid: KGB Colonel Nikolai Leonov, the Third Secretary and Assistant Cultural Attache at the Soviet Embassy, was 35, thin, blond-haired, blue-eyed, 5' 6" or 5' 7", and had a very thin face.

Also interesting is the fact that, as John M. Newman points out in Oswald and the CIA, the Oswald who spoke on the phone with people at the Soviet Consulate/Embassy on 9/28 and 10/1 didn't seem to know what real-deal Oswald had done inside said Consulate during his two visits there.

-- Tom
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Online Mark A. Oblazney

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Re: Peter Dale Scott hints Oswald was impersonated!
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 09:11:33 PM »

If you have a good sense of Harvey & Lee you will see that both Marina and Judyth Baker would not have likely missed the fact there were two Oswalds...

gosh, Albert, you’re right, I mean…. Marina AND The Judyth?  You better write her an email to corroborate this fact.

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« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 09:56:09 PM »


Harvey has a good appreciation and reading record of Turgenev (in Russian)...

Lee had zero on the same account...

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Peter Dale Scott hints Oswald was impersonated!
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 10:38:40 PM »
DeMohrenschildt wrote that Oswald told him he had read Turgenev and other famous Russian authors. Marina's favorite writer was also Turgenev.

DeMohrenschildt: "Incidentally I never saw him interested in anything else except Russian books and magazines. He said he didn't want to forget the language - but it amazed me that he read such difficult writers like Gorki, Dostoevski, Gogol, Tolstoi and Turgenev - in Russian."

This account was from his very questionable manuscript "I'm a Patsy."

Here: https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/jfkinfo4/jfk12/hscapatsy.htm

Remember DeMohrenschildt testified that he viewed Oswald as a "semieducated hillbilly" that he had pity for. That's a completely different Oswald than the one he portrays in the above essay where he is "amazed" that Oswald read such sophisticated works.

GDM: "Well, he was not sophisticated, you see. He was a semieducated hillbilly... All his opinions were crude .. .'’ His mind was of a man with exceedingly poor background, who read rather advanced books, and did not even understand the words in them . .. So how can you take seriously a person like that? You just laugh at him. But there was always an element of pity I had, and my wife had, for him."

I'm sure Oswald read serious works - he thought he was an intellectual - but I don't think he had a clue as to what they were about. Recall what Thornley said when he tried discussing "1984" with Oswald? Oswald had no idea it was about the Soviet Union.

And from "Marina and Lee": "But her [Marina's] favorites were the novels of Turgenev, with their splendidly idealistic young women and their stories of life in the Russian countryside. These books stimulated her imagination and sharpened her perceptions, and that, in turn, increased her awareness that she was somehow different from her brother and sister, somehow different from her friends."
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