Determining a Timestamp for Darnell

[Dan O'meara]

      There are several issues from credible sources that you have Not taken into consideration: (1) The Thompson interview of Sitzman and her claiming that after getting down from the pedestal, she then went Down to the BOTTOM of the Knoll. (2) Wiegman detailing in "Pictures Of The Pain" that he saw SA Lem Johns UP on the knoll. Just how firm is the Wiegman ID on the Bell Film? The figure falling/running across the top of the knoll is cavalierly accepted as being Wiegman due to his wearing a Hat. Is it possible that SA Lem Johns was wearing a Hat UP on the Knoll? That I am aware of, Wiegman NEVER ID'd himself as being this figure on the Bell Film. Nor did anyone else.

Sitzman and Johns are completely irrelevant regarding the issue being dealt with.
How firm is the Weigman ID in Bell?
It's 100& Weigman.
You already accepted this ID but are now backtracking for some reason.
YOU must do your own analysis of the Weigman footage to determine his position when he filmed the Hesters.
You will see hie is approaching the concrete platform, just before he starts filming the Hesters his camera points downwards to reveal he is lying on this platform, thge footage is taken from floor level and use the pillars in the background to determine his reletive angle to them (I've already done this in an earlier post).
When you've done this analysis you will be 100% convinced it is Weigman in Bell.
When you are convinced of that consider the following from my previous post:

1] You accept Altgens 8 shows the Hesters both lying on the grass while Zapruder and Sitzman are by the pedestal.
2] The Bell footage showing only Mrs Hester on the grass and her husband hiding out in the pergola while Zapruder and Sitzman are still moving about by the pedsestal.

The Weigman footage shows the moment Charles Hester gets up and moves to the pergola, heroically abandoning his wife.
The Weigman footage captures the moment that connects point #1 to point #2.
Are you suggesting Zapruder and Sitzman disappear between after point 1 (Altgens8) and reappear at point 2 (Bell)?
Or is it more plausible that, as Weigman runs towards the Hesters, Zapruder and Sitzman are still on top of the pedestal but the footage is too poor to pick them out?
We know Zapruder and Sitzman were still on top of the pedestal while Weigman was running towards the Hesters from the synchronisations provided by the JFK Theorist and me in this thread.
So - can you accept that the Weigman footage is too poor quality to show Zapruder and Sitzman still on the pedestal as Weigman runs towards the Hesters?

[Royell Storing]

Sitzman and Johns are completely irrelevant regarding the issue being dealt with.
How firm is the Weigman ID in Bell?
It's 100& Weigman.
You already accepted this ID but are now backtracking for some reason.
YOU must do your own analysis of the Weigman footage to determine his position when he filmed the Hesters.
You will see hie is approaching the concrete platform, just before he starts filming the Hesters his camera points downwards to reveal he is lying on this platform, thge footage is taken from floor level and use the pillars in the background to determine his reletive angle to them (I've already done this in an earlier post).
When you've done this analysis you will be 100% convinced it is Weigman in Bell.
When you are convinced of that consider the following from my previous post:

1] You accept Altgens 8 shows the Hesters both lying on the grass while Zapruder and Sitzman are by the pedestal.
2] The Bell footage showing only Mrs Hester on the grass and her husband hiding out in the pergola while Zapruder and Sitzman are still moving about by the pedsestal.

The Weigman footage shows the moment Charles Hester gets up and moves to the pergola, heroically abandoning his wife.
The Weigman footage captures the moment that connects point #1 to point #2.
Are you suggesting Zapruder and Sitzman disappear between after point 1 (Altgens8) and reappear at point 2 (Bell)?
Or is it more plausible that, as Weigman runs towards the Hesters, Zapruder and Sitzman are still on top of the pedestal but the footage is too poor to pick them out?
We know Zapruder and Sitzman were still on top of the pedestal while Weigman was running towards the Hesters from the synchronisations provided by the JFK Theorist and me in this thread.
So - can you accept that the Weigman footage is too poor quality to show Zapruder and Sitzman still on the pedestal as Weigman runs towards the Hesters?

   I am going to stop you at your very 1st point. Sitzman was needed to steady Zapruder on the pedestal. She would have needed to help him down from that same pedestal. She is also supposed to have then gone inside the shelter with Zapruder. Based on Sitzman telling Josiah Thompson that after she got down from the pedestal, she then went DOWN to the BOTTOM of the Knoll, makes this age old stuff of Sitzman sticking to Zapruder another JFK Urban Legend. Like the bucket sitting next to the JFK Limo being stored inside the JFK Limo trunk, and Barber's thread dismantling JFK clutching at his chest/throat. If YOU are going to establish timelines, you need to stick to the FACTS. Not JFK Assassination Urban Legends that mirror the clap trap connected to the Lost Dutchman's Mine. And "snychronisations" are Not Facts. The Wiegman Film is a FACT. Sitzman and Zapruder are Not on the Pedestal or near the Pedestal on the Wiegman Film. The frames showing they are Not There are shot from Elm St and from the Knoll. 2 different views at 2 different points in time.
    On "Unsolved History JFK Death In Dealey Plaza" (2003) Discovery Channel, Gary Mack takes Wiegman on a walk-through there on the Knoll. Wiegman then describes what he did on the Knoll. At NO POINT does Wiegman mention running across the knoll like that figure we see on the Bell Film. You need to establish what is FACT and what is JFK Assassination Urban Legend/Clap Trap. To this day, NOBODY including Wiegman himself has EVER verified the figure we see running across the Knoll on the Bell Film is Wiegman.   

[Dan O'meara]

   I am going to stop you at your very 1st point. Sitzman was needed to steady Zapruder on the pedestal. She would have needed to help him down from that same pedestal. She is also supposed to have then gone inside the shelter with Zapruder. Based on Sitzman telling Josiah Thompson that after she got down from the pedestal, she then went DOWN to the BOTTOM of the Knoll, makes this age old stuff of Sitzman sticking to Zapruder another JFK Urban Legend. Like the bucket sitting next to the JFK Limo being stored inside the JFK Limo trunk, and Barber's thread dismantling JFK clutching at his chest/throat. If YOU are going to establish timelines, you need to stick to the FACTS. Not JFK Assassination Urban Legends that mirror the clap trap connected to the Lost Dutchman's Mine. And "snychronisations" are Not Facts. The Wiegman Film is a FACT. Sitzman and Zapruder are Not on the Pedestal or near the Pedestal on the Wiegman Film. The frames showing they are Not There are shot from Elm St and from the Knoll. 2 different views at 2 different points in time.
    On "Unsolved History JFK Death In Dealey Plaza" (2003) Discovery Channel, Gary Mack takes Wiegman on a walk-through there on the Knoll. Wiegman then describes what he did on the Knoll. At NO POINT does Wiegman mention running across the knoll like that figure we see on the Bell Film. You need to establish what is FACT and what is JFK Assassination Urban Legend/Clap Trap. To this day, NOBODY including Wiegman himself has EVER verified the figure we see running across the Knoll on the Bell Film is Wiegman.   

At NO POINT does Wiegman mention running across the knoll like that figure we see on the Bell Film.

Point out this figure running across the knoll in the Bell film.
Weigman never moves from his position.
What person are you talking about?
Give me a version of the Bell film and give me the timestamp of that film where we can see this figure you say is running across the knoll.

Have you done an analysis of the Weigman film?
Have you worked out where Weigman was when he filmed the Hesters?

[Royell Storing]

Here's the actual first frame from the Darnell film, taken from my lossless Youtube download and not a lazy Youtube screenshot



and NO the Bell Film does NOT SHOW WIEGMAN RUNNING, it shows a walking camera man at the bottom but not him running.
This is taken from a high quality 1080p version without the watermark.

   DAN - The Newman Family was on the ground to the (L) of the above light pole. Wiegman filmed the Newman Family while also standing on the (L) of this same light pole. How do you believe the Hatted figure/Wiegman? in the Bell still frame above, got to be on the (L) side of the light pole? He had to of moved (L) across the knoll. And, bear in mind that the Couch Film shows a figure/Wiegman? running STRAIGHT DOWN the knoll.

[Dan O'meara]

   DAN - The Newman Family was on the ground to the (L) of the above light pole. Wiegman filmed the Newman Family while also standing on the (L) of this same light pole. How do you believe the Hatted figure/Wiegman? in the Bell still frame above, got to be on the (L) side of the light pole? He had to of moved (L) across the knoll. And, bear in mind that the Couch Film shows a figure/Wiegman? running STRAIGHT DOWN the knoll.

You posted this: To this day, NOBODY including Wiegman himself has EVER verified the figure we see running across the Knoll on the Bell Film is Wiegman

I am asking you a very simple question - can you point out the figure running across the knoll on the Bell film?