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Determining a Timestamp for Darnell

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Royell Storing:

--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on August 25, 2026, 08:34:37 PM ---The single piece of 'evidence' identifying the men as Shelley and Lovelady is the doctored image Bart Kamp "sharpened".
It is this single piece of highly questionable 'evidence' you have based your identification on.
Unfortunately, you lack the courage to admit this, which is in keeping with the way you have conducted yourself on this forum.

--- End quote ---

   I believe the Darnell still frame showing that figure standing in almost the identical position we see Lovelady standing in on Algens 6, is far more convincing than the Kamp Mickey Mouse'd image. And they never attempt to ID the other fellow walking down the Elm St Extension. Why is that? Because they can't pin a Shelley ID on him.

Brian Doyle:


If we could get the original Couch/Darnell celluloids they would repeat Kamp's enhancement exactly and show that people who doubt the pair is Lovelady & Shelley are just time-wasting evidence vandals...

Royell Storing:

--- Quote from: Brian Doyle on August 26, 2026, 03:46:03 PM ---
If we could get the original Couch/Darnell celluloids they would repeat Kamp's enhancement exactly and show that people who doubt the pair is Lovelady & Shelley are just time-wasting evidence vandals...

--- End quote ---


             Cue "The Twilight Zone" theme music.

Dan O'meara:
Disappointingly, I can't figure out the timestamp as convincingly as I would have hoped.
I was sure there was enough overlapping assassination footage to piece a timeline together but that appears not to be the case.

The frame in Bell showing the limo entering the shadow of the underpass can be timed at approximately 9 seconds after the headshot.
10 seconds later we have this frame from Bell:



Weigman has finished filming the Hesters and is in the process of standing up.
Frustratingly, the Bell film cuts here and resumes showing that Weigman has suddenly arrived near the Newmans:



At the moment I can't bridge this cut.

Dan O'meara:
 ;D
I posted my last REPLY expressing my disappointment at not being able to find the moment when Weigman makes his way from filming the Hesters to filming the Newmans, had a quick look at Malcom Couch's footage and instantly saw exactly what I was looking for.
The cropped still below is from Couch.
The focus is on the figure in the red circle.
This figure runs from point A to point B along the blue line.
It is Wegman running between the Hesters and the Newmans.
It takes him about 3 seconds to cover this distance.



He can be seen in the footage below starting around the 4 second mark:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-PG5mfoPGc

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