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Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on September 26, 2026, 09:22:22 PM --- As we can see on this opening frame of the Darnell Film, your claim, "The Thornton sign PERFECTLY COVERS where Zapruder and Sitzman are seconds after the head shot...." is just Not True. We can see the Zapruder Perch on this Darnell still frame and several feet (E) of the Zapruder Perch. But, we see absolutely No Sitzman and No Zapruder. And the Bell Film clearly shows Sitzman between the Perch and the Shelter. I appreciate your attempting to apply a timeline to the Darnell Film. That is a very difficult task to take on. Problem is, you are using the same Inaccurate JFK Assassination Image time lines and Excuses, (like the Thornton Sign baloney), that have been fed to the public for 62+ years to arrive at your Darnell Film timeline. And remember that the frames following this opening frame are Much Clearer. Don't restrict yourself to this opening frame. The Red Box you have placed around the Thornton Sign is far wider toward the Zapruder Perch than the sign extends in that (W) direction. The Darnell frames following the opening frame make this blatantly clear.
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"your claim, "The Thornton sign PERFECTLY COVERS where Zapruder and Sitzman are seconds after the head shot...." is just Not True."
It is true.
What are you going to do about that?
Are you aware that you just make things up?
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on September 26, 2026, 09:35:11 PM --- "your claim, "The Thornton sign PERFECTLY COVERS where Zapruder and Sitzman are seconds after the head shot...." is just Not True."
It is true.
What are you going to do about that?
Are you aware that you just make things up?
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All you have to do is look at the clearer Darnell Film frames after that 1st frame. The Bell Film clearly shows Sitzman moving between the Z Perch and the shelter opening behind that perch. Use the light pole as your landmark. The Bell Film posted by Alex clearly shows both Sitzman and Zapruder to be (W) of the light pole. And, view the Couch Film. It allegedly shows Wiegman running Down the Knoll. The Zapruder Perch, The Newman Family, and Wiegman standing next to them when filming them, are close to being in a direct N-S line. Wiegman had to move (W) across the top of the knoll in order to be in-line with the Newman Family when he ran down the Knoll toward them. This (W) movement by Wiegman would be AWAY from whatever Darnell visual obstruction you are claiming the Thornton sign provided. I don't think that you completely understand the layout of the knoll on 11/22/63. The Signs being Removed and the light post having been moved, is leading to misconceptions on your part. Which was the intention of this chicanery.
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on September 26, 2026, 11:11:35 PM --- All you have to do is look at the clearer Darnell Film frames after that 1st frame. The Bell Film clearly shows Sitzman moving between the Z Perch and the shelter opening behind that perch. Use the light pole as your landmark. The Bell Film posted by Alex clearly shows both Sitzman and Zapruder to be (W) of the light pole. And, view the Couch Film. It allegedly shows Wiegman running Down the Knoll. The Zapruder Perch, The Newman Family, and Wiegman standing next to them when filming them, are close to being in a direct N-S line. Wiegman had to move (W) across the top of the knoll in order to be in-line with the Newman Family when he ran down the Knoll toward them. This (W) movement by Wiegman would be AWAY from whatever Darnell visual obstruction you are claiming the Thornton sign provided. I don't think that you completely understand the layout of the knoll on 11/22/63. The Signs being Removed and the light post having been moved, is leading to misconceptions on your part. Which was the intention of this chicanery.
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All you have to do is look at the clearer Darnell Film frames after that 1st frame.
Like this frame.
Like this frame that clearly shows, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that the Thornton sign is covering where Zapruder and Sitzman are?
Does it matter that I've shown you this frame?
Does it make any difference?
Use your eyes and a tiny portion of your brain.
Use intelligence.
Once again, for the third time, we have your claim that Weigman can be seen moving across the knoll. This is a lie. This is a deliberate falsehood. Why are you lying about this? Time and time again I have to show that you are lying about this but you carry on saying it.
Unfortunately, it appears you are a pathological liar and fantasist.
It really is a shame..
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on Yesterday at 12:09:42 AM ---
All you have to do is look at the clearer Darnell Film frames after that 1st frame.
Like this frame.
Like this frame that clearly shows, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that the Thornton sign is covering where Zapruder and Sitzman are?
Does it matter that I've shown you this frame?
Does it make any difference?
Use your eyes and a tiny portion of your brain.
Use intelligence.
Once again, for the third time, we have your claim that Weigman can be seen moving across the knoll. This is a lie. This is a deliberate falsehood. Why are you lying about this? Time and time again I have to show that you are lying about this but you carry on saying it.
Unfortunately, it appears you are a pathological liar and fantasist.
It really is a shame..
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You've done extremely good work concerning the Prayer Man and the activity around the TSBD immediately after the Kill Shot. And your theory of Shelley and Lovelady entering the TSBD via the front door is unique. All of this is to your credit. I made the mistake of thinking that your knowledge of the JFK Assassination was also this broad based. At this point, it's not even close to that level. You need to familiarize yourself with the 11/22/63 layout of the Knoll. Also, who was where, who went where, and what JFK Assassination Films and Photos document this. Start with the Couch Film. The Couch Film shows what is believed to be Wiegman running Down the (W) side of the Knoll. The Bell Film shows Wiegman on the upper (E) side of the Knoll. How much time do you think is between the Bell Film images of Wiegman on the (E) side of the Knoll vs the Couch Film showing Wiegman running down the (W) side of the Knoll? And remember that we see Officer Hargis standing alongside the Light Pole on the Bell Film. TICK/TOCK
Get to know the JFK Assassination Images, (both film and photo), and think it through. If you do this, you will Not have to rely on smokescreens like, "Zapruder, Sitzman, and Wiegman are ALL behind the sign". That is extremely weak in many ways. Especially if you Know the distance between Wiegman and Sitzman. If you substituted a Bill Board for the Thornton Sign, that bill board would Not stretch from Wiegman to Sitzman. That bill board would Not be wide enough to obscure both Sitzman and Wiegman. Again familiarize yourself with who was where, along with the 11/22/63 position of the Knoll landmarks. Especially: (1) the Light Post, (2) the Stemmons Sign, and, (3) the Thornton Sign.
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on Yesterday at 01:21:19 AM --- You've done extremely good work concerning the Prayer Man and the activity around the TSBD immediately after the Kill Shot. And your theory of Shelley and Lovelady entering the TSBD via the front door is unique. All of this is to your credit. I made the mistake of thinking that your knowledge of the JFK Assassination was also this broad based. At this point, it's not even close to that level. You need to familiarize yourself with the 11/22/63 layout of the Knoll. Also, who was where, who went where, and what JFK Assassination Films and Photos document this. Start with the Couch Film. The Couch Film shows what is believed to be Wiegman running Down the (W) side of the Knoll. The Bell Film shows Wiegman on the upper (E) side of the Knoll. How much time do you think is between the Bell Film images of Wiegman on the (E) side of the Knoll vs the Couch Film showing Wiegman running down the (W) side of the Knoll? And remember that we see Officer Hargis standing alongside the Light Pole on the Bell Film. TICK/TOCK
Get to know the JFK Assassination Images, (both film and photo), and think it through. If you do this, you will Not have to rely on smokescreens like, "Zapruder, Sitzman, and Wiegman are ALL behind the sign". That is extremely weak in many ways. Especially if you Know the distance between Wiegman and Sitzman. If you substituted a Bill Board for the Thornton Sign, that bill board would Not stretch from Wiegman to Sitzman. That bill board would Not be wide enough to obscure both Sitzman and Wiegman. Again familiarize yourself with who was where, along with the 11/22/63 position of the Knoll landmarks. Especially: (1) the Light Post, (2) the Stemmons Sign, and, (3) the Thornton Sign.
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You make sh!t up and believe it's a fact.
You are an incredibly tiring person to deal with.
Why not post an actual fact you can back up. It's all your fantastical opinion. Your constant insistence that Weigman can be seen running across the knoll in the Bell footage DQ's you from this discussion.
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