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Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on September 18, 2026, 12:43:41 AM ---Hi Alex, to be honest, I'm coming up with an even quicker time for the beginning of the Darnell footage that begins with this frame:
It's something closer to 19 seconds as I believe Weigman is in position filming the Hesters during this frame.
Whatever the case, a big thanks to yourself for providing some excellent quality footage to work with.
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Look at the background of this Darnell Film opening frame. You can see the Zapruder perch. We do Not see Zapruder and/or Sitzman anywhere. They are not On the Perch, they are Not near the perch, they are Not anywhere on the cement that is around the Perch. They are simply NOT there. And how long did it take Zapruder who was suffering from vertigo to dismount that Pedestal? Certainly more than 15 seconds. Much more. This Darnell opening frame is far later than roughly 15 seconds after the Kill Shot. And much later than the Bell Film which does show Zapruder wandering around the cement area near the Pedestal. The current time stamp of the Darnell Film is Wrong. And so is the :20 second time stamp that has been applied to this same Darnell film showing Officer Baker running across the Island.
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on September 26, 2026, 03:11:13 PM --- Look at the background of this Darnell Film opening frame. You can see the Zapruder perch. We do Not see Zapruder and/or Sitzman anywhere. They are not On the Perch, they are Not near the perch, they are Not anywhere on the cement that is around the Perch. They are simply NOT there. And how long did it take Zapruder who was suffering from vertigo to dismount that Pedestal? Certainly more than 15 seconds. Much more. This Darnell opening frame is far later than roughly 15 seconds after the Kill Shot. And much later than the Bell Film which does show Zapruder wandering around the cement area near the Pedestal. The current time stamp of the Darnell Film is Wrong. And so is the :20 second time stamp that has been applied to this same Darnell film showing Officer Baker running across the Island.
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The work done synchronising the Bell and Zapruder films demonstrates Zapruder was down from the pedestal and a few steps away from it in less than 12 seconds.
The reason you can't see them near the pedestal in the Darnell frame is because the Thornton sign is in the way.
From the work I've done on this I put Baker reaching the steps of the TSBD about 19 seconds after the headshot.
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on September 26, 2026, 06:24:53 PM ---The work done synchronising the Bell and Zapruder films demonstrates Zapruder was down from the pedestal and a few steps away from it in less than 12 seconds.
The reason you can't see them near the pedestal in the Darnell frame is because the Thornton sign is in the way.
From the work I've done on this I put Baker reaching the steps of the TSBD about 19 seconds after the headshot.
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That I am aware of, there are No Images of Sitzman wandering away from the Zapruder Perch to the point where our viewing of her "Might" be obscured by the Thornton Sign. The Bell Film shows Sitzman going Straight toward/into the shelter directly behind the Zapruder Perch. She's still very close to the Z pedestal. And Zapruder is in shock and meandering close by her. And we also see Wiegman moving (W) across the top of the Knoll. Just where are ALL of these people on the opening frames of the Darnell Film? And, that opening frame of the Darnell Film shows the driver of Camera Car #2 standing flat footed outside of his car. ALL of this is going on only 19 seconds after the Kill Shot? Whether it be the "Missing" Zapruder and Sitzman, the "Missing" 3rd man standing at the bottom of The Steps on Willis 5, or the "Missing" Getaway Car on the Wiegman Film. The timeline of this Darnell Film snippet is wrong. And like dominoes, so are the assigned timelines of other images. And why? Because Wiegman filmed the JFK Limo going under the Triple Underpass. Which traces back to an extended "rolling Stop" or a complete "Stop" of the JFK Limo on Elm St.
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on September 26, 2026, 07:08:18 PM --- That I am aware of, there are No Images of Sitzman wandering away from the Zapruder Perch to the point where our viewing of her "Might" be obscured by the Thornton Sign. The Bell Film shows Sitzman going Straight toward/into the shelter directly behind the Zapruder Perch. She's still very close to the Z pedestal. And Zapruder is in shock and meandering close by her. And we also see Wiegman moving (W) across the top of the Knoll. Just where are ALL of these people on the opening frames of the Darnell Film? And, that opening frame of the Darnell Film shows the driver of Camera Car #2 standing flat footed outside of his car. ALL of this is going on only 19 seconds after the Kill Shot? Whether it be the "Missing" Zapruder and Sitzman, the "Missing" 3rd man standing at the bottom of The Steps on Willis 5, or the "Missing" Getaway Car on the Wiegman Film. The timeline of this Darnell Film snippet is wrong. And like dominoes, so are the assigned timelines of other images. And why? Because Wiegman filmed the JFK Limo going under the Triple Underpass. Which traces back to an extended "rolling Stop" or a complete "Stop" of the JFK Limo on Elm St.
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The Thornton sign perfectly covers where Zapruder and Sitzman are seconds after the headshot in the Darnell footage.
But it doesn't matter.
It makes no difference to any kind of discussion with you, Royell.
It's like trying to deal with someone whose dropped acid.
You make up any old xxxx you want to off the top of your head and expect others to deal with it as if its a fact.
The Darnell footage begins around 15 seconds after the headshot. Suck it up.
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on September 18, 2026, 12:43:41 AM ---Hi Alex, to be honest, I'm coming up with an even quicker time for the beginning of the Darnell footage that begins with this frame:
It's something closer to 19 seconds as I believe Weigman is in position filming the Hesters during this frame.
Whatever the case, a big thanks to yourself for providing some excellent quality footage to work with.
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As we can see on this opening frame of the Darnell Film, your claim, "The Thornton sign PERFECTLY COVERS where Zapruder and Sitzman are seconds after the head shot...." is just Not True. We can see the Zapruder Perch on this Darnell still frame and several feet (E) of the Zapruder Perch. But, we see absolutely No Sitzman and No Zapruder. And the Bell Film clearly shows Sitzman between the Perch and the Shelter. I appreciate your attempting to apply a timeline to the Darnell Film. That is a very difficult task to take on. Problem is, you are using the same Inaccurate JFK Assassination Image time lines and Excuses, (like the Thornton Sign baloney), that have been fed to the public for 62+ years to arrive at your Darnell Film timeline. And remember that the frames following this opening frame are Much Clearer. Don't restrict yourself to this opening frame. The Red Box you have placed around the Thornton Sign is far wider toward the Zapruder Perch than the sign extends in that (W) direction. The Darnell frames following the opening frame make this blatantly clear.
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